F1 » F1 China 2013: Webber to start from back after fuel penalty

Red Bull's Mark Webber will have to start from the back of the grid after being penalised for running out of fuel in the second round of qualifying.

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Wishbone - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 6:41 PM

@ Martin (Not Witmarsh) "You think Mark Webber, who has looked faster than Vettel all weekend, would deliberately sabotage his own Q3 strategy to help Vettel?" Well obviously not! I think Mark would sooner hacksaw his left leg off than help Seb. My point was if you as the team were attempting to achieve what you wrote, then short fuelling Mark to start from the back is fraught with risk. Clearly the option tyre deg is alarming, so opting for a prime tyre run in Q3 as JB has done could pay off. Given all the team orders noise I should have thought RBR would prefer both drivers to get on with it and prove that the team orders no longer exist. All this talk of sabotage is a bit far fetched to say the least so I think we'll agree to disagree!!

Martin (not Whitmarsh) - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 6:47 PM

@Wishbone - Not so risky in China as it is quite a good track for overtaking and in any case .... if there was a melee, an early safety car wouldn't exactly hurt Vettel's chances at all!

We shall see tomorrow I guess.

John - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 7:50 PM

@"How many times Webber was behind Vettel and he was told to save fuel or save tyres?"

Why don't you try to answer your own question? You should be able to count that high on the fingers of one hand.

Then ask yourself how many of those times Webber actually obeyed those orders.

theomen666 - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 10:00 PM

Mark Webber shouid have just walked away. its not his fault. Vettel has always been Red Bulls Number 1 driver and always will be. Webber could not go to any other team as Lewis moved and Massa stayed put for 2013 and was given one last chance.

skippy - Unregistered

April 13, 2013 10:13 PM

in between all the kicking house tunes belting out of the red bull garage you would think they had a mechanism for checking how much fuel went in . ie weight of bowser before and after. (whatever a flipping bowser is)


April 13, 2013 10:22 PM

Re this Mark Webber misfortune, all teams use the absolute minimum weight of fuel to do the time on track at hand, BUT this Webber affair was not a fuel miscalculation, it was a malfunction of the fuel rig, the RB8 did not stop out on track because it ran out of fuel, Webber was told to stop the car because of fuel shortage to prevent damage to the main fuel pressure pump and possibly the engine.
The two or three fuel transfer pumps inside the tank are capable of running dry without damage to themselves but the main pressure pump (max 100 bar) will be damaged if run dry, also the engine (pistons/valves) can be damaged by a suddenly lean injected fuel when an engine is running out of fuel, as the amount of fuel injected plays an important part in the cooling of pistons and valves.

chrian - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 12:47 AM

I knew RB would do something to keep their drivers far apart at the beginning of the race, and MW would get the worst of it.

Worst case scenario for RB was having an all RB front row. Getting rid of Webber early meant more options for Vettel later.

Job done. Plonkers. Lost all respect for that team and all associated with it. What a joke.

AllofAustralia - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 1:00 AM

Yep, RBR managed to make sure Mark was no-where near Seb, who RBR knew wasn't going to be able to run for pole on the tyres he had...... And if Christian says it was a mechanical fault, then the good Dr (Marko for the ignoramus') is working behind Christian's back.....

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