F1 » F1 China 2013: Penalties for Webber and Gutierrez

A busy post-race evening for the race stewards got underway with grid penalties for Bahrain being handed to Red Bull's Mark Webber and Sauber's Esteban Gutiérrez.

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clichy - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 2:30 PM


The chances of Kimi going to RBR are exactly zero. His race today shows that Lotus are treating him exactly as they should, they trusted his judgement on the front wing and he brought the car home for them.

Unfortunately, I think Webber should go - go and have some fun in Australian V8s. It is obvious RBR are a one driver team, unfortunatey that driver is Vettel. His arrogance which borders on nastiness will be the undoing of RBR, no driver is bigger than the team.

And I know, Richard, he is contracted to the team not an employee but he is still subject to team orders.

The roar from the Chinese Spectators when Kimi was handed his trophy shows that Lotus made the right decision in signing Kimi.

My money is on Alonso or Kimi for the championship this year.

prof-x - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 2:31 PM

I love listening to people try to mislead the conversation by pointing the finger at the conspiracy theorists. I really hope most people dont fall for that 'these are not the droids you are looking for/jedi mind trick bs.

Legitimate complaints being lodged, Red Bull fk'd it up again for Webber, even with the stupid mistake on his part he stll could have gotten some solid points and TYPICALLY, Red Bull screw it up for Mark, again.


April 14, 2013 3:18 PM

Prof x, the conspiracy theorists you included doesn't realise that they are ridiculing themselves apart from contaminating this site.
Richard, as I understand it after Ferrari came out with a wheel that contains the wheel nut (wheel nut in wheel) everybody followed suit, this system is impossible to cross thread, they might not have locks any more, in that case the wheel nut threads would have to be left or right handed (the same like the old style knock on wire wheel nuts if you know what I mean) , Horner said that the nut was fully torqued, so what was at fault?

Terminator - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 3:19 PM

This collision between Webber and JEV really does make it obvious that RBR probably have asked the Toro Rosso drivers to make way for their drivers if required during a race.
I have seen Webber race for years, and I don't remember seeing him make such a silly move down the inside of a car in front. The reason why the made the move was because he thought JEV would make way for him. Obviously JEV did not want to make way for him at that corner because he would have lost time as Webber was not that close, so he probably wanted to let Webber through on the long back straight.
Something needs to be done about this, it is not fair that one team has practically 4 drivers whereas other teams have only 2.


April 14, 2013 3:36 PM

Mark Webber....Jaguar 2003. "The German Grand Prix saw Webber's sixth retirement of the season after he made a last lap lunge on Jenson Button in an attempt to salvage a point from the weekend. As long as I can remember....Mark has had these 'brain farts'. IMO!!!!


April 14, 2013 3:47 PM

Mark Webber.....Jaguar 2004. " in the European Grand Prix. Webber had lined up 14th on the grid, after being handed a one-second penalty for yellow flag infringements during Friday practice, but was able to move through the field to take his points tally to 3. After the race, he was criticized by Michael Schumacher for refusing to yield when Webber had emerged from his pit stop slightly ahead of (but one lap behind) Schumacher. Upon hearing the comments, Webber said he "would do exactly the same again" in the same situation. Thats THE MARK WEBBER THAT I REMEMBER!!!! Now can you imagine if Vettel had done that to someone? HMMMMMM......Marks an OK driver that has a black cloud over his head. Time to go...might be fun to have a beer with but......

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