F1 » F1 China 2013: Penalties for Webber and Gutierrez

A busy post-race evening for the race stewards got underway with grid penalties for Bahrain being handed to Red Bull's Mark Webber and Sauber's Esteban Gutiérrez.

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April 14, 2013 4:10 PM

sunny. the bull uses the older type nut which has four or five springloaded fingers around it. when the nut is in the gun, the fingers are depressed, but as soon as the gun comes off the nut, the fingers release and are supposed to lock the nut in place. not sure how the nut in wheel system works though

GoRBR - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 4:36 PM

I always been a fan of RBR, but I really don't like what they are doing to webber lately.
Can't be casual that:
1) Team fails to put enough fuel in Webber's car in Q2.
2) Team fails to change a wheel property when they are the fastest in the pit lane.
3) The second RBR Team fails to give the order to one of his drivers to let Webber pass easily as they always do.

This is like workplace mobbing, no doubt! And could backfire to the team.

John - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 5:11 PM

"The second RBR Team fails to give the order to one of his drivers to let Webber pass easily as they always do"

Webber crashed into Vergne - did you somehow miss that part? Even Webber admits it was his fault, too bad his fans can't do the same.


April 14, 2013 5:16 PM

gorbr. it is just that webber does not have good fortune smiling on him. as i said on another thread....remember chris amon? deemed to be the unluckiest f1 driver ever. it happens!

1 there was a fault in the fuel bowser
2 the wheel nut WAS torqued up properly. the reason for the nut unlocking is not known as yet, but could be failure of the locking pins
3 silly comment! vergne was racing for his position and was clear ahead. why the hell would you expect him to pull over and wave ANY driver through. there are NO inter team orders. str might be told not to make things difficult, and mark could easily have waited until he was around the corner. instead he made a miscalculated lunge.

John - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 5:31 PM

"Team fails to change a wheel property when they are the fastest in the pit lane."

Change that "when" to "because" and you might be on to something. There's nothing suspicious about a team which does a very fast pit stop screwing it up and failing to tighten something.

Assuming that's what happened - we don't even know yet why the wheel came off.


April 14, 2013 6:06 PM

john. ferrari had the fastest pit stop today. rbr were third fastest. but....the wheel was changed at the same time as a new nose was fitted, and there was plenty of time to fit the wheel. in fact, all the wheels were supposedly double checked. rather than a team failure, it is pointing towards a component failure. a loosely fitted wheel would probably come off in the first half mile, but webber did a lap or two at racing speeds (if memory serves me right, and wheel came off long after his pit stop, and when he was driving slowly as he was stuck in gear.

Blutto - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 6:10 PM

Guess who was coming up fast behind Mark before his incident with Vergne? Yup..it was Seb and Mark i guess had a panic attack and made the ill timed move againts Vergne.
Has Mark apologize to Vergne yet?

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