F1 » F1 China 2013: Penalties for Webber and Gutierrez

A busy post-race evening for the race stewards got underway with grid penalties for Bahrain being handed to Red Bull's Mark Webber and Sauber's Esteban Gutiérrez.

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Jimmy - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 6:13 PM

Vergne's comments say 2 things about him and nothing else:

1. "Certainly I didn't even know he was there." Lie. Of course he knew he was there. Was your mirror broken? What he was really saying by forcing the collision: "Don't ever expect me to give way."
Oldest racer head game in the book.

2. "It was not a good race from then on, having lost a lot of time and having to drive a damaged car."
What he was really saying: "I'm a far better driver than the results show."
Sorry Vergne, but results, on the track or in life, are how we measure success. Often harsh, always fair.

Alex - Unregistered

April 14, 2013 7:08 PM

Yeah, i know it's unlikely but one can still wish, can't we? It'll certainly make for more thrilling races if we have 2 strong RBs fighting 2 resurgent Ferraris


April 14, 2013 11:28 PM

Richard, re Webber wheel problem, Webber's wheel did come off while driving slowly but he did notice and reported the problem as soon as he came out.
I am certain that most teams are now using the wheel nut system as pioneered by Ferrari, that is the wheel nut is part of the wheel now (it stays inside the wheel rim when the wheel is removed) and not come out with the wheel gun, the nut is cercliped loosely into the wheel rim in a way that makes it virtually impossible to cross thread when using the gun to thread it in, I am also certain that using a single retaining nut the threads are left or right handed according (counter) to the rotation of the wheel, any clips/fingers/ nut retention system will prevent the nut from rotating only if the nut is fully home and fully torqued, otherwise these clips/fingers will not prevent the wheel coming off.


April 14, 2013 11:34 PM

Further to the above, Horner said that the wheel gun man assured him that the wheel nut was certainly fully torqued and he also said that time for doing the wheel was not a problem, I suppose that we will not be told the real problem encountered like we wasn't told by Force India.

milo - Unregistered

April 15, 2013 12:40 AM

I'm Australian and a one eyed Webber fan but to say RBR have a vendetta against Mark is just stupid, although Mark/Vettel/Helmut are obviously aren't the best of friends no team would hamper one of their drivers.
They're both paid the same amount so they obviously don't care which one of them brings home the drivers title as long as they bring home the constructors at the same time.

Off topic a bit but well done to Ricciardo bout time a weekend worked out for him.

shaken - Unregistered

April 15, 2013 2:02 AM

Im extremely sorry for Mark. Its time for him to get out (of F1) while he is in one piece and has made his money. F1 is for the geeks and the criminally insane.

Kamui - Unregistered

April 15, 2013 2:42 AM

I was watching the BBC broadcast when the incident occurred and instantly knew what David Coultard was going to say ... He called it a racing incident when it's so obviously Mark's fault.
DC has got to be the most hardcore Mark Webber fan and he never criticizes Mark ... Thank god Eddie is still around.


April 15, 2013 3:17 AM

Mark has officially now signed a 5 year deal with Porsche to head up their endurance racing starting next year. So I would think he will just get what he can for himself for the rest of this season.

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