F1 » Hamilton: Mercedes has ‘a lot of work to do’

Despite pole and a podium in China, Lewis Hamilton claims that there is still a gap for Mercedes to close.

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tdog - Unregistered

April 16, 2013 9:44 PM

@ 107

Not true, "The Mercedes engine is indeed about 15 horse power more powerful than ours," confirmed Renault Sport F1's Jean-Francois Caubet.

Lewis was being magnanimous as he and Rosberg had almost equal pace in China, that's why they were only able to pass and re-pass each other on the drs zones. If Rosberg was faster, he didn't need to ask Ross to let him pass. Think about it, the only time driver's ask the pit to let them pass is when they can't pass their teammate cleanly on track (ie, Alonso and Massa in Germany 2010). Lewis passed Jenson in Australia in 2010 without asking the pit and Jenson did the same in Brazil 2013 only to be re-passed. All these without intervention from the pit. Rosberg tried but was re-passed. After the 1st try he should have changed his strategy and passed Lewis on the 2nd DRS zone and he would have been saying bye, bye Lewis.


April 16, 2013 9:52 PM

tdog. ok, maybe the merc has 15 bhp more than ferrari or renault, but that is a minute amount. if it was relevant, the merc would be ahead of everyone, but the renault and ferrari are beating it!

and nico did not get on the phone to ask if he could pass lulu. he passed him and was then told to drop back and hold station. slight difference.

for those who like pointless stats...
lulus average finishing points 13.3
nicos average finishing points 12

:D :D

tdog - Unregistered

April 16, 2013 10:32 PM


F1 is not just about engine power, there is something called downforce, which the Redbull has, and balance, which the Ferrari has. Merc is bad on their tires period and Lotus isn't.

Nico went on the phone after he was re-passed by Lewis twice. Everyone knows that. He should have passed Lewis on the 2nd drs zone or better yet, where Vettel got Webber. I know it can't compare because Webber's engine was turned down, but it was a true pass.

Nico and Lewis are equally matched except for the days that count. I think Nico will realize that soon enough.

You must like pointless stats.


April 17, 2013 7:42 AM

tdog. i was answereing the comment about power only! there are many factors to be taken into account, torque, mechanical grip and aero.

re webber and vettel. its over, but BOTH cars were proven to be on the same engine setting!

re stats. yep, i know they are pointless, but there are some here that believe that they can prove anything. i only put in that "stat" to wind them up!

«2PAC» #ByAnyMeansNecessary

April 17, 2013 1:50 PM

To get back to the actual question of the thread I find myself agreeing with Sunny...
Merc have made great steps over the winter but it is always that last 5% that is the hardest to get and that makes the difference between podiums and winning races.

I do feel that although they have improved they still seem to suffer the same tire deg issues they have had for the past few years. This is what they need to resolve imho because todays F1 isn't about the fastest driver, it's more about the driver that can make his tires last best and the car design plays a huge part in that equation.

tdog - Unregistered

April 17, 2013 2:15 PM


That's what happens when you don't read the whole thread or at least my prior posts. But it figures, because you just admitted that you are an agitator. I will keep that in mind when reading your posts.


April 17, 2013 2:57 PM

tdog. yeah, i did read the thread and it had nothing to do with power difference between ferrari, renault and merc. then the subject of power came up, which i commented on. and then the comment about nico v lulu wasnt agitating, it was an extension of your comment about fanboys etc.

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