F1 » Fernley: Half the grid would win with Red Bull

Paul di Resta would be a front-runner in the right car, but so would 50 per cent of the grid, admits Force India's Bob Fernley.

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marcus - Unregistered

April 29, 2013 2:24 PM

Juanita, I've been following Formula 1 for more than 20 years, so me trolling is nothing new. I was just seeing the same pattern, people said Stoner wasn't good, it was just the bike(only champion 2007 but still won many races), then when he joined Honda and Rossi tried Ducati the truth came out and I think it might be the same with Red Bull and Vettel now, the car gets all the credit. If Webber has misfortunes every weekend it's not misfortunes, then it's his standard level, and he almost never has the pace to match even without his "misfortunes".

F1 Rules! - Unregistered

April 29, 2013 2:27 PM

Why the continuous arguing about who is better between Button and Hamilton?? Last time I checked, they both had 1 WDC to their name! The rest of it is incidental, because it is not "a straight battle between men". There are machines involved and that creates additional variables.

One of the top managers in Force India has just said that any of the top drivers would win the WDC in that Red Bull, so there you go! Maybe Webber just doesn't cut it, at the very top. Or he has been unlucky with his machinery and mechanical failures at Red Bull, over the years. Or both.

Factilius Aurelius - Unregistered

April 29, 2013 2:48 PM

As for Stoner and Rossi the bikes they rode were 5 years apart. And in that period the ducati went backwards every single season. Stoner would have won nothing on it last year he wasn't even in the fight for the title on the mighty honda(Rossi walked 3 on the bounce on it without getting out of second gear a comparison the stoner fans love to ignore) and that was before he crashed out last year trying to keep up with his teammate..

John - Unregistered

April 29, 2013 3:47 PM

So Fernley thinks that Mark Webber is a below average driver, since Mark can't do what fifty percent of drivers could do - win the title in a Red Bull.

I'm old enough to remember when MW was regarded as one of the fastest drivers in F1. It's funny what a few seasons driving next to Vettel does to a drivers reputation.

John - Unregistered

April 29, 2013 3:52 PM

"Webber has "misfortunes" almost every race weekend"

Yeah, he has the "misfortune" of being compared to Vettel in the other Red Bull, a comparison which makes him look bad.

You may as well try to argue that Massa suffers "misfortune" every race weekend because he keeps losing out to Alonso.

bob - Unregistered

April 29, 2013 4:01 PM


Whether JB is better than LH or not is not the point. The point is, Fernley says that half the grid would win in a good car.

The JB/LH comparison is simply to point out that a supposedly 'midfield' driver can excell when
given good machinery.

In other words, just because someone is driving a midfield car, does not make them a midfield driver.

I used the JB/LH comparison because Hamilton has been in a front running car for his entire career and Button has not.
But look what happened as soon as he was given a good car.

Whether JB is better or LH is better is irrelevant. What is relevant is that JB went from lower midfield to
winning races, championships and regularly mixing it up with and beating LH - the so called 'fastest driver' in F1.

bob - Unregistered

April 29, 2013 4:18 PM


"Would of been interesting to see Hamilton, Vettel and Alonso in some of those cars to see how they performed.."

Yeah, it would be interesting to see one of those 'top' drivers in a car that's not so good and see how they perform! Oh, hang on...correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Hamilton was driving a not so good McLaren in 2009 wasn't he? How'd that go for him? If I remember correctly it took him 10! races to even put it on the podium!!! 10!!!
So please spare me the dribble about Hamilton being able to win a not so good car when Button can't!

"..Hang on didnt Renault get rid of Button for Alonso and then alonso went on to win 2 x WDC in that car!"

No, Alonso didn't win anything in that car. He won in a Renault 2 years after Button left - hardly the same car! In fact, Alonso never even won a race for Renault until 2005. And if I remember correctly, Button actually finished higher in the WDC in 2004 than Alonso did.

rb27 - Unregistered

April 29, 2013 4:22 PM


What is relevant is that JB went from lower midfield to
winning races, championships and regularly mixing it up with and beating LH - the so called 'fastest driver' in F1.

Except that is simply not true and before you accuse me of being a Hamilton fan I really do not care for either Button or Hamilton.

I suggest you maybe have a look at the stats again between these 2 drivers.

The cream always rises to the top in F1 Button never excelled in any car untill he got into the Brawn which was so superoir to any other car it was ridiculous.
Look what happened though when the other teams caught them up he was back to being an anonomous midfield driver again.
I know Hamilton has always been in a competitive mclaren theres a reason for that as a regular mclaren tester he was the quickest driver available to themat the start of 2007 being a GP2 Champion and F3 Champion and F Renalt champion. Like i said the cream always rises to the top

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