F1 » War of words over tyre wear heats up


After the pit stop frenzy in Barcelona, it seems everyone had a view on Pirelli's 2013 tyre compounds. And by no means everyone wants to see changes.

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@ Pete - Pirelli is giving F1 exactly what they asked for. In fact, they cannot stray from what F1 wants.

Did anyone ask Pirelli to design tyres that make F1 cars look painfully slow? Every time we went to an onboard camera on Sunday, the footage was pathetic.

Drivers lifting massively in corners that an F1 car should be able to take easily flat out.

Drivers braking 50 metres too early, coasting into corners and waiting forever before getting back on the throttle.

Drivers not bothering to defend when they are attacked because put up a fight and the tread will come flying off the wheel a lap later.

Pirelli were asked to produce tyres that degrade, forcing 2-3 stop strategies. They haven't.

They have produced tyres that are inconsistent, unpredictable and cannot be RACED only managed.

They are also downright dangerous. When/if the tread comes flying completely off the tyre in Monaco without warning and sticks a driver in the wall, maybe just maybe FIA / Pirelli will wake up to

They are also downright dangerous. When/if the tread comes flying completely off the tyre in Monaco without warning and sticks a driver in the wall, maybe just maybe FIA / Pirelli will wake up to the disaster they have created that is current F1.

@Pete - I'm sure your road car doesn't have the performance limits an F1 car has and a hand made tire. Relating the 2 is ridiculous at best. Don't shoot the messenger

That isn't how advertising works. The message going into the subconscious of millions of people every fortnight is Pirelli = Disintegrating rubber.

So when they are next standing in the tyre shop trying to choose between Goodyear, Michelin, Bridgestone etc and they all look the same, people will choose based on price and/or perceived reliability.

Oh dear. What do I do? Should I choose Bridgestone or that brand whose tyres explode every other sunday afternoon in the hands of the best drivers driving the best engineered vehicles in the world?

Chris - Unregistered

May 13, 2013 8:22 PM

There's no doubt Pirelli will look into fixing the problems but its wishful thinking that they will produce the tires to appease certain teams.
The teams whinging about it needs to suck it up and sort their cars out, thats the point of a constructors championship. If Lotus and Ferrari can cope then I'm sure everyone else can. The more they whinge, the more time they waste as the season goes on.

pete - Unregistered

May 13, 2013 8:24 PM

Nonsense!!! Ferrari pretty much went flatout whenever they wanted yesterday and had no problems with their tires. They just made an extra stop -- something no one else has tried yet.

If you look at what Ferrari did, it had not been done before. Yes, yes, use your tires up... all of them... get in fast laps.. attack, attack. that is what both Alonso and Massa did going from 5th to 1st and 9th to 3rd respectively. Everyone else on the grid should be doing the same next time out, although Monaco is a different, Montreal should be excellent.

If you're watching F1 and think the road tires are the same as F1 compound and construction, then you're an idiot (not you, a general observation)

107SS2009

May 13, 2013 8:31 PM

Richard, again you are out of order, Hembery didn't say all the others are complaining apart from FERRARI and Lotus.
Now to all those whinging about the TYRES because the team/driver they support are not doing well.
Before this year's cars were ready Pirelli gave a SAMPLE TYRE to all teams to evaluate in Brazil last year, there were no complaints from any team back then.
Now after the season has started those that their car design cannot handle the tyres as good as others do pretend that instead of improving their car design to suit the tyres Pirelli will change the tyres to suit their car, and I ask, WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT GOT THEIR CAR DESIGN RIGHT?

Fastlane66 - Unregistered

May 13, 2013 8:41 PM

Pirelli must confess the Company does not proper Tire technology for Formula One.
Pirelli Tire is never improved over amount of Rubber Marbles come out from Tire now even worst with Tire failure. FIA should question itself about Pirelli Tire quality in F1 and endangering of Drivers' safety.
How many times Pirelli said they will change Tires condition but come back with same and even worst with all Rubber flake came off from Tire.
Pirelli is completely wrong if they though F1 is marketing ground for Company.
It's lucky if Pirelli has sale increase after entered to F1.
No Pirelli Road Tires for me after seeing on F1.

Fastlane66 - Unregistered

May 13, 2013 8:43 PM

Pirelli must confess the Company does not have proper Tire technology for Formula One.
Pirelli Tire is never improved over amount of Rubber Marbles come out from Tire now even worst with Tire failure. FIA should question itself about Pirelli Tire quality in F1 and endangering of Drivers' safety.
How many times Pirelli said they will change Tires condition but come back with same and even worst with all Rubber flake came off from Tire.
Pirelli is completely wrong if they though F1 is marketing ground for Company.
It's lucky if Pirelli has sale increase after entered to F1.
No Pirelli Road Tires for me after seeing on F1.

richard

May 13, 2013 8:53 PM

sunny. reading hemberys report again, yes, he is saying that all teams bar ferrari and lotus are complaining. i have staunchly defended pirelli, but the tyre that they provided for testing has been changed several times this year. and the testing tyre did not delaminate. personally, i support ferrari , so even though it appears to help them, i would have no reason to whinge! i am a bit surprised at your comment, as all sites are full of the criticism, so i doubt that all the sites are supporters of any particular team. pirelli admit that they have to change the tyre, and they would not do that if it was deemed ok.
have you seen the photos of the macca tyres after the race. they are just downright DANGEROUS. a bit reminiscent of the michelin debacle.
i know that you want to see racing, but surely you have to admit that this is not racing. if the hard tyre can be destroyed by a dozen laps, there is something wrong and should be rectified.

gazza - Unregistered

May 13, 2013 9:00 PM

Its funny how RedBull ran their tyres on extreme settings and ignored the advice of the tyre manutacturer to gain an advantage, inducing risk in previous years. Now it cant handle the new tyres as well, they complain. Like Lotus say, you have to get on with it and deal with whatever you are dealt. Simples.

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