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Ferrari joins Lotus in hitting out at Pirelli's decision to alter its tyres ahead of the Canadian Grand Prix

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F1 Rules! - Unregistered

May 17, 2013 2:52 PM

And that appearance of favouritism is what the world will see, no matter how many times richard keeps saying that Pirelli themselves say they got it wrong! Kapish?

F1 Rules! - Unregistered

May 17, 2013 3:00 PM

Besides...are Lotus and Ferrari complaining about the tyres or not?? Some people keep saying that all teams are complaining, but clearly Boullier and Ferrari are not! So which is it?


May 17, 2013 3:25 PM

Red Bull have spoon-feb this "not racing anymore" cack to the press and they are eating it up! To win you must extract the maximum out of yourself and your package, which includes the tires. That is how you win, by doing this better than the competition. That is how you go faster and further than your competition. It's called racing. If Red Bull and Mercedes can't do this better than Ferrari and Lotus then they have to try harder. They seem to be trying hardest in influencing a rule change more favorable to themselves, they should be embarrassed to be so underhanded as this.


May 17, 2013 3:41 PM

f1 rules and dan. thanks for attacking what I say. am I not allowed to express an opinion or state facts?

there were no complaints from you a couple of races ago, when Pirelli had to change the tyres for a race, as they were suffering problems from excessive wear. and that played into the hands of Ferrari and lotus. but the changes affected merc, worst of all, or did you not notice?
and the fact that Pirelli admit they got it wrong is very relevant. at the end of last year, Pirelli supplied data on the new tyre to all the teams and their cars were designed around this data. but now the tyres are not performing in accord with the supplied data, due to compounds not acting as envisaged. Pirelli are reverting to the spec supplied to the teams. no team got is wrong, they designed to incorrect data. at the moment we are getting a false picture of each cars true performance. who is to say that ferrari or lotus will not gain more from a change? it all speculation!

Pete - Unregistered

May 17, 2013 3:49 PM

Funny, it's seems Ferrari, Lotus and Force India got it right with the supplied data and McLaren have adjusted their car from the beginning of the year to now with the supplied data.

Merc and RBR have not got on with the program as McLaren have done and Ferrari and Lotus from the beginning.

The "supplied data" argument that Richard proposes is a RBR apologists answer. Some teams have set up their car properly and others are struggling.

Reminder, RBR is still leading the WCC, and WDC, but the lead is not as comfortable as they have become accustom to....


May 17, 2013 4:08 PM

pete. there is nothing apologist about my comment! Pirelli themselves keep saying they got it wrong? are you saying that they are lying? you don't like it because your team has gained from it? well, my favourite team is Ferrari, but that does not preclude me from understanding the tyre situation. rbr are leading wdc and wcc, so they obviously did do their sums right, until Pirelli changed the compound. funny that rbr have had no delaminations whereas others have, so the problem is NOT rbr specific.
and as I said, who knows which team will gain from normalisation? my money is on MERC!

AMG - Unregistered

May 17, 2013 4:19 PM

When RBR got the first row in qualifying and 1st and 2nd in the race, F1 was so amazing and races were so exciting.

Tires are good only when finger boy gives his approval. Everytime he loses it's the same drama.


May 17, 2013 4:34 PM

"It's clear that four is too many," admitted Pirelli motorsports director Paul Hembery in Spain after the race. "We'll be looking to make some changes, in time for Silverstone, to make sure that we maintain our target and solve any issues rapidly."
That isn't saying Pirelli got anything wrong. Pirelli didn't supply false data to the teams and the tires are performing as they were designed to. They are evolving the tires to be "less aggressive" to satisfy the political aims of the commercial rights holder and the FIA, nothing more. I guess that defines "normalcy" in F1.

Mr Know it All - Unregistered

May 17, 2013 4:36 PM

Yeah sure Ferrari but these days we need F1 to be more entertaining and fundamentally a race where nobody has a clue who is where with over 80 tyre stops is nauseating. You may all get off on your celebrity excitement from the paddock compound where everything seems oh so exciting but watching F1 cars being driven around slowly so as to preserve tyres is nauseating. Change the tyres now as the F1 TV product is baseless


May 17, 2013 5:33 PM

nealio. in a statement on Monday or tuesday, Pirelli did in fact say they got it wrong, saying that fia asked for 2-3 stops.
this reminds me too of Ferrari , when Renault were using Michelins with a square tread,they got the Michelins changed. up till then, Renault had been beating Ferrari, but then their fortunes changed

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