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Lewis Hamilton: We just need to keep motivated and work it out together...

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Dave - Unregistered

May 19, 2013 9:07 PM

Lewis may have had a stinker last race, but over the last two races (both 'normal' conditions with no mechanical failures etc) he's actually done far better than Rosberg. His overall places lost is -6 compared with Rosberg's -13, and his points lost is -10 compared with Rosberg's -38. I actually don't think there's much to choose between Hamilton and Rosberg so far this season, but it's clearly inappropriate (again) for Hamilton haters to start trying to make a negative story about him based on the last race alone.

richard

May 19, 2013 9:46 PM

dave. personally i was just correcting robs comment about drop in a race. other than that, nico has fewer points but that is not really due to poor performance. he had a dnf and was also held back. but on one point you are right, there is really nothing to choose between the greatest driver ever, and a driver that many claim is no use.

Taipan

May 19, 2013 10:04 PM

Richard, Don't sell Lulu short he's not just the best driver ever, he's also the best development driver AND the only driver that can win in a bad car. (cough)

Dave, Does your "Lulu is epic because he has lost less places than Rosberg" analogy include the 5 place grid penalty for Lulu in Bahrain? And imagine Senna Mk2 getting out qualified 2 races in a row by an F1 also ran, oh dear times are indeed tough for fanboys when they have to resort to Lulu is great because he's lost less places than his team mate!

FlashF1 - Unregistered

May 19, 2013 10:07 PM

Dave: Don't waste your time responding to Richard's anti-Hamilton rants. Why Richard reads articles about Hamilton is beyond me since he clearly has a problem with him.

Taipan

May 19, 2013 10:19 PM

Flasher, Allow me to answer on Richard's behalf, we tend to read Lulu articles just to have a good laugh at the idiotic fanboy comments.
"only driver who can win in a bad car"
"fastest driver of his generation"
"best overtaker"
"best at tyre management"
"best development driver"
etc
etc
etc
Everyone of them fanboy comments, everyone of them nonsense of the highest order.
If you want to see a current F1 driver at the top of their game have a look at Alonzo, Vettel or Kimi, Lulu is not in the same league.

richard

May 20, 2013 7:41 AM

flash harry. if you took the time to actually read my comment, it was not anti-lulu, but anti lulu fanboy! but jumping in to have a go at me, just shows that you are one of these fanboys! I do not really have to explain myself to you, but rarely , if ever, have I actually made insults about the "greatest driver ever".
have a nice day!

Zelda - Unregistered

May 20, 2013 9:36 AM

I don't see to many 'fanboys' on topic but I do see the same 'haters'.
Can we honestly say that this year is about how fast a driver is?
Personally, even I can see that tyre management is the be all and end all.
Some teams are on top of it, just and some, are most definitely not. Lotus vs Merc is a no contest for instance.
Maybe our F1 illuminati of taipan and Richard could explain why Mercedes tyre degradation is so bad?
It would be far more interesting.
I bid you good day gentlemen and live in hope that Taipan has taken a happy pill before engaging his keyboard skills.

richard

May 20, 2013 11:21 AM

Zelda. why do you think that anyone who does not idolise lulu, is automatically a hater?

re merc, there has been discussion on this before, but some posters object to sensible discussion. personally, I feel that it has all to do with the fric suspension which places additional download on the front suspension as it endeavours to raise the car. all the cars have to have a static similar balance, so it has to be down to movement on the suspension.

Taipan

May 20, 2013 11:33 AM

Zelda, Thanks for your continued fascination in my posts.

The idea that all of a sudden people are tiptoeing around trying to protect tyres is a myth and comments like "I can't drive any slower" from twinkle ears don't help things. Look at the fastest laps from the last 3 Spanish GP's.

2013 -1'26'217- Gutierrez lap 56
2012- 1'26'250 -Grosjean lap 53
2011- 1'26'727- Lulu lap 52

Were you whining about tyres in 2011 when Lulu set the fastest lap, or was he being awesome setting a lap time half a second slower than what was set last Sunday?
As for tyre degradation, Lulu's biggest loss of positions at Spain came in the first lap, now you don't need to be an F1 illuminati to know that tyre deg doesn't affect the first lap. It certainly didn't cause Rosberg to go backwards in the first lap.

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