F1 » Pirelli hints at ‘lock it or lose it’ ultimatum to F1 teams


Pirelli has suggested that it could pull out of F1 if a new contract cannot be quicky agreed with the teams.

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richard

May 24, 2013 12:11 PM

apparently the fia have not agreed that Pirelli be the sole supplier for 2014. so it is odd that Pirelli are signing individual contracts with teams. what happens if someone does not sign? does this make fia contract void? does it mean that a team would be allowed to race using alternative tyres? etc
I would have thought that once fia had dictated one supplier, then ALL teams would automatically have to comply and there would be no need for separate contracts? all very odd.
maybe Pirelli are actually looking for a reason to pull out, as their profits have been hit badly?

prof-x - Unregistered

May 24, 2013 12:30 PM

they should pull out, their brand image is being kicked in the gut due to being mandated to produce cra* tires. Btw, just cause you are asked to suck, doesn't mean what your doing doesn't suck. If their tires didn't shed compound and blow apart or completely go to cra* after x number of laps people wouldn't be harping on so hard about them.

If you want credibility you need to have 'real' competition, not a bunch of lies promoted by proposed authorities. If their is no incentive to compete, then efficiency goes down, and it doesn't take long for people to figure out what they are watching is not competition, just entertainment for the lowest common denominator.

rob01 - Unregistered

May 24, 2013 1:00 PM

There is NO signed Concorde agreement. Money to the teams have been agreeded upon but FIA has no new contract with the sport. All talk by Bernie whether it be rules or tires is all political bull.

whizzo - Unregistered

May 24, 2013 1:04 PM

Happy riddance to pirelli a reputable comany should never let no body compromise they product bridgestone ,michellin nor goodyear have,nt done it ,pirelli go home and work to restore people confidence in your product again the only people coming out of this situation being burned is pirelli and they inferior tyres.

José - Unregistered

May 24, 2013 1:46 PM

Pirelli is the worse tire manufacture in the history of F1! Their tires are unstable and each time respond differently when falloff starts. If it was just fading fast would be no problem but it fades differently with the same cars and same driving. This is a major flaw and possibly for the lack of Know-how as nowdays in Korean and Chinese tires are better tires for road cars and much cheaper. Pirelli is simply a wanna be top brand but their quality shows how fake their are in real life and now in F1.

richard

May 24, 2013 1:49 PM

whizzo. oh dear! do you not understand the tyre supply situation? it is not Pirellis fault! they are producing tyres to the fia mandate. any supplier would have to do the same. Pirelli (or anyone else) could make a tyre to last the full race, but they are not allowed to do this. fia WANT and insist on several tyre changes during the race, to liven up the show. the ONLY thing that Pirelli can be criticised for, is the delaminating, caused by improper bonding of rubber to the belt

mrfill

May 24, 2013 3:11 PM

There has always been some constraint or other to prevent one team getting a huge advantage and the simplest way to do that is to hit the common ground. Two items are common to all teams - one is the amount of fuel, the other is tyres.
The current fashion seems to favour the use of tyres as a control although with the change of engines it is not inconceivable that the maximum amount of fuel could be reduced which would lead to more howling However, as these are the only 2 items common to all then if one team is suffering worse than the rest, it is likely to be that they either failed to build the car to match the tyres or failed to put in sufficient fuel. In either case it is up to the team to sort out the problems, not to try to get rules changed to suit them.

richard

May 24, 2013 4:23 PM

mr fill. at present there is already a fuel limit. and with the new engine, the fuel limit will be smaller and the fuel flow is regulated. with one make tyres, all this will bring cars very close together, so close that passing normally is nearly a thing of the past. that is why they brought in kers and drs. it is all artificial now....no such thing as actual racing!

Texas Roadhouse

May 24, 2013 7:40 PM
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I wouldn't blame them walking away - they're supplying tyres to the fia spec (as richard said), but getting the "blame" from the uninformed masses - thanks, in part, to the mis-information being spread by some teams. It's good that they are prepared to play hardball with them (the teams). Ultimately the teams have more to lose than Pirelli - unless the fia changes F1 to a hovercraft formula!

richard - clarification over their profit "drop" from 2011:
NET PROFIT: +27.4% TO 398.2 MILLION EURO (312.6 MILLION EURO IN 2011 BEFORE NON-RECURRING IMPACTS) ). TOTAL NET PROFIT IN 2011 WAS 440.7 MILLION EURO AFTER A POSITIVE IMPACT OF 128 MILLION EURO LINKED TO DEFERED TAXATION
- REVENUES: +7.4% TO 6,071.5 MILLION EURO ( 5,654.8 MILLION EURO ON 31 DECEMBER 2011)

Taken from the statement from the Board confirming the 2012 figures.

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