F1 » FIA to rule on Mercedes tyre test

Race stewards in Monaco set to report to the FIA into Mercedes' Pirelli tyre test after hearing in Monte Carlo

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May 27, 2013 6:06 PM

rob. you really are on a damage limitation exercise for merc! if something has to be done in the interests of safety, there has to be unanimous agreement with all the teams. Pirelli had already said that they were improving the bonding of tread to belt, and this could have easily been tested on the Renault. they claimed that they wanted to change the structure in the interests of safety, and that was denied to them by the fia.

the rules are quite clear. they defied the fia condition for testing, that ALL teams had to be asked. this did not happen
they broke the sporting code which says that only a two year old car can be used to testing.
their two race drivers also got the equivalent of two race distances each. invaluable extra drive time and experience.
bending rules is ok, but breaking rules deserves punishment.

Francis Sakala - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 6:29 PM

Don't understand on what basis FIA can punish Merc. It was up to Pirelli to advise the other teams about the test. So what responsibility does Merc bear for Pirelli not offering other teams the test?!!!

saint - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 9:04 PM

@Francis Sakala & the rest of Ross Brawn & Hami fans:
Ross knew exactly what rules exist & would be broken
He most likely thought that the punishment would be
minimal as compared to the advantage gained.
He is under severe pressure from Daimler for the money
they have spent on drivers, development &
management teams for his year alone.
As far as Paul Hemberey is concerned, he should also know that they cannot use team drivers and current cars for testing, since HE is dictating the amount of tire stops now and seems to be trying to run the F1 circus!
Heads should be rolling!!!


May 27, 2013 9:24 PM

francis. the sporting code clearly states that any testing can only be done using two year old cars! that is to prevent any one team gaining an advantage and also to keep down costs. merc breached the code!

Francis - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 10:53 PM

Gentlemen, I am reacting to the following statement ( '“At the beginning of May, the FIA was asked by Pirelli if it was possible to carry out some tyre development testing with a team, using a current car ...... and that such tests would be conditional upon every team being given the same opportunity to test in order to ensure full sporting equity") If this statement Is factual, irrespective of the source( and it does seem to come from the FIA) then responsibility for the mess has to lie else where apart from Merc

rob01 - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 10:57 PM

richard i am sure Merc have found a loophole. I know you love loopholes as Red Bull has gained for a few years now using them. Maybe Ross was just creative.

JonnieD - Unregistered

May 27, 2013 11:08 PM

Why a load of rubbish is spouted by Red Bull and Ferrair defenders in times like these. It does sound like Pirelli messed up and there was poor communication to cause this mess. But a " second a lap advantage" to Merceees due to this tyre test? What rubbish!! Maybe if they knew what they were testing there would be a few tents, but not a second a lap. It was clear from what is reported that Mercedes didn't know what was being tested and in any case most seemed to be 2014 tyres anyway, and maybe apart from some things this year which caused tyres to delaminate. A serious issue surely, and one which should have been tested. And why not with a team which had experienc such a problem?

Get real people, and stop this ridiculous reactionary rhetoric. It does F1 no good at all. And please Red Bull dump that idiot Helmut Marko, I can't see he's any use to anyone but himself.


May 27, 2013 11:33 PM

Richard, Do you think Rob would be such a defendant of Mercedes and their dodgy dealings if a certain sparkly eared driver wasn't driving for them? No neither do I.

Come on Rob be an F1 fan and support what's right for the sport for a change, for years you've defended any McLaren wrong doing and slated Ferrari and RBR, now your allegiance has suddenly swung to defending whatever Mercedes are getting up to regardless of the rules.

Giveway - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 1:04 AM

Richard, I know I don't normally agree with your opinion, but in this subject/context you are more than correct.

Pirelli asked to test new tyres, which they are allowed a maximum of 1000kms a year to do so, aswell as a current car (which is against sporting code anyway, but they were allowed by FIA a car), Merc breached that rule, secondly, the rules say no current grid driver, Merc breached that rule, thirdly Pirelli never informed or confirmed the test with FIA, major breach of rule, fourthly, Pirelli was to ask ALL teams, this didn't happen!

So where did either of these corps NOT breach the rules?

kiwibob - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 3:03 PM

My opinion is the fia are not telling the whole truth as an earlier report said they knew of the test and also that merc ha checked with them about this years car and as they were testing next years tyres and merc didn,t know what the tyres were then unless u have special powers where is the benefit.
Will be interesting if all the info does come out as to who is telling untruths merc,pirelli or fia . And anyone who thinks merc got an advantage at monaco is having a dream as its the slowest track of the year and merc is great on it anyway

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