F1 » HAVE YOUR SAY: How should FIA deal with Mercedes test row?

The fall-out from Sunday's news that Mercedes and Pirelli had conducted three days of testing in Barcelona has now come to rest with the FIA, but how should the governing body react?

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sam - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 7:11 PM

some should realise tire testing is not same as car testing. merc were not given three day of free testing to try new parts or aero settings and free tire. it would be lots of runs where they were unallowed to change wing etc. then tire techs would decide to try it again but with different pressures or different compound while pirelli measure data. pirelli would run test meaning they dictate runs, fuel, everything. at end pirelli is sharing this data with all teams, to help all teams understand why tire sometimes work and sometimes not, why tires have peeled in race condiitions.

Jamie - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 7:29 PM

Punish them for breaking the rules just like Red Bull were punished last year i.e. let them get away with it & tell them not to do it again. How Red Bull can even accuse Mercedes with what they have done in the past bemuses me. Todays FIA & Red Bull link seems just like the the Schumacher/Ferrari/FIA days. I noticed the safety car was not deployed until about 5 minutes after Massa's crash, as soon as Vettel pitted. Unfortunately it went wrong because the Safety car just missed picking up Rosberg, I'm surprised Red Bull aren't protesting this as well.


May 28, 2013 8:00 PM

Jamie. what planet are you on? this is a major muck up, and has nothing to do with redbull. most, if not all the teams are affected and complaining. the fia insisted that all teams being informed and agreeing. so far I have not heard one team coming out in support of merc/Pirelli.
this breach of fia rules and of sporting code is rocking f1 to the core.

Carl - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 8:49 PM

Mercedes should definitely be stripped of their Constructors points from Monaco onwards... I also feel that they should have a race ban and points deducted for next season too (effectively they have tested a car still underage for the 2014 tyres, so, they have an advantage over other teams knowing how this car handles tyres)...

I also feel that all teams except Mercedes be allowed additional testing covering the same number of laps with the same tyres as Mercedes used...

Certainly some information was gained, as we heard that Rosbergs tyres were only 50-60% used after the first pit stop and Vettels were completely done...

sam - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 9:07 PM

carl = we heard that Rosbergs tyres were only 50-60% used after the first pit stop and Vettels were completely done

is that not because rosberg was running in clear air and deliberately slowing pack down to make his tires last longer but other cars behind in dirty air were using tire more and trying tp pass etc. rosberg plan was to run race at lower pace and pit much later but safety car changes that. no cars had bad tire issues at monaco. it is not that sort of track.


May 28, 2013 9:23 PM

carl. where did you hear that? in fact, vettels tyres were in good condition, that is why he set ftd. however lulus tyres were shot. I have not seen any comment about nicos tyres. can you point me to the info, please?

Carl - Unregistered

May 28, 2013 10:38 PM

During the 1st Safety car period... On Sky F1 the radio chatter had Red Bull teliing Vettel his tyres were done, shortly afterwards Mercedes told Rosberg his were only 50-60% worn...

The difference in wear pattern could be due to clean and dirty air, but, I wonder if further setup information may have come to light...

Richard, I'm not sure what happened to the rest of my post, but much of it was deleted. Maybe the FIA censored it?! Or Red Bull protested its contents & lobbied Crash to remove parts of it!!! I'm no-one special in the world of F1, just a fan who voraciously reads as much as I can get my hands on. Everything I've quoted has been found on various sites, most probably bbc.co.uk/f1, jamesallenonf1.com or joesaward.wordpress.com (probably the most reasoned & sensible journo I've found in a while). In fact, since my previous post Joe has posted an article titled "A curious turn of events" which points to a rather interesting slant to this whole situation. Joe also suggests something I mentioned earlier (but was among the stuff that disappeared) & that is that it's ridiculous to assume that two companies such as Pirelli & Mercedes would do anything to get themselves into trouble with the FIA. As I said earlier (again, not published) if anyone is to blame here it's the FIA & F1 in general. The

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