F1 » Red Bull rejected Pirelli test approach

Red Bull were among the teams asked to assist Pirelli with its development programme, but refused because it didn't want to break the F1 regulations regarding testing.

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June 08, 2013 10:39 AM

Talking of camber, assuming you talking seriously about technical meter's it's not camber but toe-in (am talking rear wheels now) that is adjusted to make the tyres last longer, that is apart from the need to fit the tyres so that they rotate in the intended designed direction/way.
I suggest you read an expert article about this subject, such as Garry Anderson at BBC F1.


June 08, 2013 10:49 AM

Red Bull(I mean Adrain Newey) always had been able to find loopholes in the rules and used them to made some tweaks here and there in order to increase the efficency of their cars. Even if some of this tweaks were banned by the FIA or the stewarts they never did broke the rules, they always had been correct with the rules and never faced a tribunal, unlike McLaren, Renault and now Mercedes AMG. So they alongside Ferrari have all the rights to seek further clarification for this story. They always are falling victim of others cheating. Red Bull maybe could have won in Monaco, I am not much sure about this. But back in 2007 the spygate damaged very much Ferrari, as McLaren was able to cut their deficit to Ferrari thanks to these informations. Or the crashgate of 2008, when Massa was leading comandingly before Piquet crashed and the race was messed up, so Hamilton was able to gain six points on Massa, costing the later his only chance to win the title.


June 08, 2013 10:57 AM

107SS, yes Anderson suggested the issues teams are having now with tyres are similar to those teams had in the past, some teams come up with better solutions than others (as they always have done). I thought it was ironic when he suggested that Red Bull had around 150 guys working on aero and that the 'truckie' was perhaps the main guy for tyres.


June 08, 2013 10:58 AM

This is "Bull".
I thought they all said previously that they were not invited/asked to partake in the test.

Lets just now say "we did not want to break the rules" and in fact simply banging more nails in the coffin of Mercedes and Pirelli.
Bleating sheep.

Pushing the lambs to the slaughter.

They all have a three week break now, let them all have a 1001km test so they will find out that not a lot was gained.

This playground "Bull-S**t" ( not an attack on RBR ) appears every season in some guise and is becoming extremely tedious.

I just what to see racing and technical advancements.


June 08, 2013 12:46 PM

otoh. rbr NEVER said that they were not contacted. they had said that an approach was made to them and as it was outside the sporting codes, they declined to send a car.
Williams, sauber, force india, lotus all said that the had not been approached.
and I suppose that marussia and caterham were not fast enough to be able to provide suitable data.


June 08, 2013 1:00 PM

Pirelli are now ready to leave f1 as they say that they cannot continue to work in the dark (no, they didn't test at night!). this "test" may have been designed b them to force fia hand over testing, but it is merc who will receive the flak


June 08, 2013 3:14 PM

Is an approach not a form of contact.
All these people will say whatever will benefit them the most, that is the nature of high competition.

Typical F1.
If there is an infringement of the rules/regulations, it should be dealt with in a TIMELY manner, not in the "Half ****d" way it is now.

Are you looking forward to the race, maybe the alleged benefits for Mercedes will come clear. or maybe, clearly there was none.

It's good to talk.

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