F1 » Vettel: Tyre criticism purely a matter of safety


Sebastian Vettel, along with the rest of Red Bull, has been very vocal in his complaints about this year's Pirelli tyres. But now Vettel has explained he's just concerned about safety.

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elijah

June 11, 2013 9:46 AM

Vettel is being disingenuous again. It's the Red Bull teams inability to always push as hard as they'd like on this season's Pirelli's which is his complaint. The safety angle is the only way they can have the tyres changed mid-season without all the teams agreeing to change so he pushes the safety angle.

richard

June 11, 2013 10:11 AM

Elijah. red bull can win with the existing tyres, so their grouse is not with car performance. the delaminations are what everybody is concerned about. a parting tread can cause a car to crash or can hit another driver. the cars have to drive slowly due to the tyres going off with the possibility of a sudden tread loss.

elijah

June 11, 2013 10:26 AM

Richard, remember Pirelli has said the safety of the tyres is not an issue. Not being able to push so hard is what Red Bull and other teams in general have against this year's Pirelli's. It's the constant management of the tyres to prevent them dropping off the cliff which is causing a lot of concern for the teams.

richard

June 11, 2013 10:32 AM

Elijah. and you think that Pirelli are happy to see delaminations as ot a safety issue? imagine driving at 200mph and have a tyre throw a tread? how are you going to make the next corner or even brake, with an exposed steel band on your remaining carcase?.
the tyres for this year were constructed to run with the steel bracing, and bonding of tread to carcase was problematic. Pirelli want to go back to the Kevlar banding as their bonding to that was ok. I guess that if they get the bonding to the steel perfected , then there would be no problem. montreal showed that the steel braced tyre can be ok, if properly bonded

Yes Yes Yes Leave Me Alone

June 11, 2013 10:40 AM

Red Bull/Seb have been leading the championship since round 2, so whatever people think, clearly they are coping ok with the tyre performance!

The safety point is valid in my opinion, we have been lucky so far that the delaminations have happened in relatively safe places on track. Get one as you turn into Eu Rouge and it might be a different story - its a serious issue.

elijah

June 11, 2013 10:41 AM
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Richard, Pirelli's point is that it's the nature of the failure which has changed, and the tyre itself is actually safer than it was last year. I agree the sudden delamination at high speed is dangerous no matter where you are on the track,so change in this characteristic would be better. But Red Bull have not had this problem of sudden delamination at all during the season. They want to be able to do as Vettel's custom is, to drive away into the distance early on and dominate.ie have greater flexibility with there tyre management, which would help Vettel no ends.

richard

June 11, 2013 12:43 PM

Elijah. read your first comment again! you are saying that red bull cannot cope with the change in characteristics and that seb is being disingenuous when he is pointing out that it is a safety issue. now you are saying the opposite. red bull are coping very well, but just because they have not had a deamination, that is no reason why they should not be concerned. for ANY car to have a sudden delamination, it is just not acceptable. rbr might not suffer, but what if another car in front suffers? does seb want to be hit by a tread, or a spinning car? I doubt it.

Texas Roadhouse

June 11, 2013 2:04 PM
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Of course they have an agenda (RBR). I haven't heard Lotus, Ferrari, or the other teams who manage the tyres complaining. Should be interesting to hear teams' comments during Silverstone.

Pirelli also hitting back at RBR over their comments. At least they are fighting their position and not just rolling over.

richard

June 11, 2013 3:40 PM
Last Edited 444 days ago

morgan. yes, others have complained about the deteriorating rubber. in fact,before the testgate scandal, the tyres performance was the main topic in the pits and on tv..
and, I case you hadn't noticed, rbr seems to be coping quite well with these tyres.
so far, lotus are the only ones who have vetoed a change

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