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There will be no decision announced from the International Tribunal on Thursday, said officials, as Pirelli started its defence with a stark repudiation of the hearing's jurisdiction.

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June 20, 2013 9:47 PM
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Different tires mean different setup and different levels of feel, sorry richard, but unless they use those tires in the future they will have learned little of consequence.

All Pirelli have to do is say they are not using those kinds of tires and problem is solved :)

btw, Ferrari did gain a competitive advantage at Barcelona :) Merc were just decent enough to do it after the race, in good faith, and for the sake of safety.


June 21, 2013 7:33 AM

pcx. do you even read the reports? testing INCLUDED the current tyres! and even brawn admitted that it was inevitable that they gained knowledge. maybe you should have been present defending merc at he tribunal!


June 21, 2013 8:15 AM

I think that Merc are going to be in for a hefty punishment. Jean Todt is coming up for a reelection of a 2nd term and needs to show some form of decisiveness. Sadly Merc are already trying to play the "future in doubt" card, should their integrity be tarnished. I personally feel they should have at least a 3 race ban this year and a reduction of points for next year (2013 car being used for 2014 tyres).

I have no doubt that serious performance knowledge would have been gained. For Merc to try and say that Nico was the only front running driver to need 3 stops at Canada is a total joke as they had him run the softer compound tyre from race start until the 2nd stop.


June 21, 2013 9:03 AM


Exactly, just defense lawyers trying to twist arguments to paint a picture of innocence when the facts are indisputable, that's what they're paid far too much to do.


June 21, 2013 9:21 AM

Mercedes using Rosberg's 3 stops in Canada as any form of defence is a joke, Nico had a massive lock up not long after his second stop and the team called him in for a third stop because the flat spot was too bad.
How a flat spot can be used as an example of tyre degradation is beyond me.


June 21, 2013 9:52 AM

Merc would be hurting less if their car hadnt improved since the test. Nothing stopped them running new components for mileage testing, and all their gathered data will be comparable for future use.
I'd say, Braun is gone, Whiting is up for nenewal, so pressure is on him, and Michelin will be levered into the void that will be waiting in F1 tyre land.
At least Lemans this weekend is gonna be great!!


June 21, 2013 12:46 PM

The official verdict:

Decision of the International Tribunal

The Tribunal, after having heard the parties and examined their submissions, decided that:

Mercedes be reprimanded
Mercedes be suspended from participating in the forthcoming “three day young driver training test”
Pirelli be reprimanded.
and rejected all other and further conclusions



June 21, 2013 12:55 PM

taz. I had not been able to find that! but you are right, it is a joke. so the flood gates are open to others to "test" and only get a reprimand. it is well worth he risk.

interesting to see that lauda had brokered a deal with Bernie, to pay a large fine, but wolff and brawn vetoed it! so there is obviously dissention in merc. and even lauda felt that the rules were broken.

I guess fia were frightened of losing merc and/or Pirelli.

now, whose head is on the block?

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