F1 » Mercedes 'gained advantage' from Pirelli test


The FIA's International Tribunal rules that Mercedes did gain an advantage from its tyre test with Pirelli

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kiwibob

June 23, 2013 2:18 PM

Richard i read that one of the emails was given to merc by pirelli for use at the court either way i think all 3 were at fault unless pirelli contract says if its there test then its there rules

richard

June 23, 2013 3:41 PM
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kiwi. you cannot be serious! "their test, so their rules......"!!!!. as I said, the contract between fia and Pirelli, which is the only one applicable, states that Pirelli must stick by fia rules and regs. to even suggest that Pirelli could act like dictators and suddenly impose their own rules, is ridiculous.
the tribunal found that Pirelli broke their contract, end off...!

35edme

June 24, 2013 3:24 AM

Also the tribunal did not find that Pirelli broke their contract which wouldn't have mattered anyhow as the tribunal cannot subject Pirelli to anything. Remember the ruling of the French court.

richard

June 24, 2013 7:37 AM

35. first of all, Pirelli and merc claimed that they were only testing 2014 tyres...nothing to do with safety in any way. they only threw in the issue of testing 2013 tyres in the interests of safety, after a letter from three drivers was revealed. why deny they were testing 2013 tyres, if it was genuinely a safety issue? and it still required agreement of ALL teams.
secondly, Pirelli WERE found that they had breached their contract in relation to testing with a current car in contravention of their contract.
no third party contractor can act as dictator!

kiwibob

June 24, 2013 10:20 AM

Richard there is no need to attack me for a post which if you read again says unless pirelli contract says . Have you seen the whole contract between fia and Pirelli yes or no would do .
To me the trib has found all three guilty fia pirelli and merc but again not for using 2013 car so if your right then it would have been a lot worse for merc not smack on wrist . . So take a chill pill and please let other people have a different point of view from yours as thats almost like a dictater

richard

June 24, 2013 10:55 AM

kiwi. I am not attacking you, but when the tribunal findings actually state a fact, I have no problem repeating that fact. the issue of the Pirelli contract and its points of reference was at issue, and the position was made clear about the requirement , specified in the contract, to accept the f1 rules and regs. so, whereas I have not seen the contract, I would take it that the qc chairing the tribunal, should be believed. its ok by me if you don't want to believe what comes from the tribunal, but I prefer to deal in actual facts

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