F1 » Webber: Staying in F1 wasn’t a consideration

Mark Webber says staying in F1 for 2014 wasn't something he considered after announcing his move to sportscars with Porsche

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June 27, 2013 6:58 PM

pcxmerc. to class others as ignorant is not nice. people can have opinions and some with far more knowledge of the engines than yourself can be shot down by you.
you make claims that v8s are fuel efficient yes they might be compared to other v8s, due to f1 creating restrictions such as fuel capacity. the new engines will use far less fuel than the v8s, and all major car manufacturers are turning to turbos in the interest of fuel economy. as far sound s concerned, yes they may sound ifferent, jst as v10s sounded different to v12s, turbo 4s etc. after one or two races, nobody will care about sound. after all, we only hear it on tv, so not really the true sound!


June 27, 2013 7:00 PM

Just had a thought ! When I first became an F1 fan the engines were generally below 400bhp until the legendary Ford DFV came out which developed 400. Now we are moaning because the new cars may only have 600 bhp. I don't know what the power to weight ratio is but it's still pretty phenominal and we maybe should be grateful for that, especially considering the fantastic aerodynamic improvements to today's cars.


June 27, 2013 7:03 PM

"major car manufacturers are turning to turbos in the interest of fuel economy."

turbos do not increase fuel economy, period. In fact richard, by limiting the rev range, they are actually taking some of the control away from the guys driving the cars.

turbos do not make for fuel economy, they only increase the potential for adding fuel to more air, at the expense of more heat, and lowered compression ratios, as well as extra weight for things like intercoolers, etc....


June 27, 2013 7:18 PM

pcxmerc. ok, have it your way. everybody else in the motor industry thinks differently. everybody is out of step except you. so we will see all the f1 cars coming to a stop next year, as they are carrying less fuel?


June 27, 2013 8:39 PM

Formula one engines are and always were the most efficient engines, that is something that technically cannot be disputed.
A turbocharger will not make an engine more economical.
The strongest combustion that can be had using regular pump fuel is at a fuel to air ratio of 14.7:1.
The benefit of a forced induction cylinder is it can burn more fuel than a NA cylinder of course it all depends on the level of boost.
Direct injection has a fuel economy benefit over indirect injection.
Re the formula one engines, the most economical (fuel wise) are the least powerful and so the least efficient.

Texas Roadhouse

June 27, 2013 9:53 PM

I thought the article was about Webber's leaving F1, but must have misread somewhere.

Oh - and on the engines - I have two - a 2ltr t/c 4 and a 5.7ltr V8 - now I know which one is more economical, and "environmentally friendly" - but I know which one I prefer to drive - and it ain't the former!


June 28, 2013 5:40 AM
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Egos have got in the way of following the story by-line. BTW, I know which one of your cars I'd rather borrow for the weekend, and it is probably the one you least want to part with.


June 28, 2013 3:55 PM

I have tried to clarify some technical things on other people's posts all I did.
OK, so somebody went off topic, I followed suit, in turn I was followed by Texas and Google promptly followed the lot.

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