F1 » HAVE YOUR SAY: Who or what is to blame for F1 tyre shambles?


F1 tyres took centre stage again at the British Grand Prix, but where should the finger of blame be directed after the latest rash of high-profile failures?

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richard

July 01, 2013 10:45 AM

ty. it wasn't the kerbs. first of all, no other cars racing before the f1 race, had a problem. and the track was checked before the race. even Pirelli are saying cuts did not cause the problem, and after the spate of explosions, cars were told to stay off the kerbs, but didn't do so, and yet no more trouble. I will add someinteresting info in next post.

taz. merc haven't got over their problem, luu was the first to blow a tyre.

Taz

July 01, 2013 10:48 AM

@richard

You can't know that.

I'd suggest that's nothing to do with the Merc's tyre wear issues and more a tyre construction issue as it affected 4 different teams (at least). It was just the roll of the dice that Hamilton suffered the 1st failure....Rosberg was fine.

richard

July 01, 2013 10:49 AM

when Pirelli make the tyres, they make "handed " tyres and label them accordingly. not sure what exactly is different between left and right, but maybe the bias? recently, ome teams, notably Ferrari and macca, have taken to swopping the sides, so we have seen tyres with "right" labels, being fitted to left, and vice versa. this possibly puts a different strain on the tyre and belt.
photos of the remains of flips tyre (left rear) clearly show a "right" label. it would be interesting to know if any of the other tyres that blew, were cross fitted.

Taipan

July 01, 2013 11:00 AM

PCX, Direction Right or Left??

Richard interesting suggestion, I hadn't noticed the marking on Massa's tyre, they may well be directional, get them the wrong way round and they tyre is operating in reverse for the whole race, could cause problems but I would have thought the teams would be well aware of any risks that would cause.

Giveway

July 01, 2013 11:02 AM

Richard, it's 'swapping'.

Some love to use the 'Guess' chalk for their whiteboards.

Pirelli are to blame, it is their tyres rubber that is the problem, it is their compound that is the problem.

Cuts anywhere in the carcass certainly DO cause sudden tyre delamination, evidence in point is the 2013BritishGP. Even if there is a small amount of contaminant/debris on the inside of the tyre, at the speeds they go in F1, it is enough to blow it to kingdom-come. A big question is, where did the cuts come from? Scaring to the carcass? Most likely. Its not like this is new to Formula1 though.

Giveway

July 01, 2013 11:08 AM
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Oh and an answer to Richards question, teams can do this at their discretion, as the labels are for setup purposes, and for Pirelli to "keep tabs" on their tyres performances. However its more common now to do this if a team is, shall we say, running low on "quality" tyres. Use the best four tyres you have in your garage.

Calvin _

July 01, 2013 11:12 AM

Newey is putting the blame squarely on Lotus, Force India and Ferrari for vetoing the changes proposed by Pirelli because they felt it wouldn't suit their cars. Don't necessarily agree, but it's what he's saying.

richard

July 01, 2013 11:12 AM

giveway. swapping to me is merc using tyres that hey have received from Ferrari. I doubt that there is an official word for it!!!!

also, Pirelli have issued official statements that cuts did NOT cause the explosions.

ty. it is not the chalk markings on the sidewalls, it is a barcoded label actually affixed to the tyre that denotes the side to be used on. unfortunately I have not found the actual photo of the destroyed tyre on the internet, but I have the photo in front of me! the label is not on the sidewall, it is close to the remaining bead of the destroyed carcase

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