F1 » HAVE YOUR SAY: Who or what is to blame for F1 tyre shambles?


F1 tyres took centre stage again at the British Grand Prix, but where should the finger of blame be directed after the latest rash of high-profile failures?

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mimi

July 01, 2013 11:14 AM

what ever or who ever, i am just glad that no one said it was vettel to blame. european races with their fanatism is sick. if you cheer your driver cheer him with dignity, not at someone's misfortune.
pirelli with 1000km and bursting balloons, should venture into party products may be.

Giveway

July 01, 2013 11:16 AM
Last Edited 480 days ago

Like Richard said, its a barcode system, each tyre is scanned at each event with the barcode system, thus allowing the FIA and Pirelli to know full well who has what and how many of each, each team has. Think of each tyre as an asset, each has its own asset code.

Richard, of course Pirelli would say that, they don't want the blame, however it is irrefutable.

And no, one team cannot give tyres to another, that would breach the sport regs along with the tyre count.

sodesu

July 01, 2013 11:33 AM

Calvin, how can it be Lotus' fault that the tyres are exploding? Sure that situation makes it more complicated, and the FIA's request to make the tyres more fragile certainly has a part in this. But ultimately, the blame has to lie on Pirelli. They've HAD opportunities to test with new cars, perhaps not as many as they would like, but change vetoed of not they should however which way you see it have been able to produce tyres that don't blow up at 200 mph in the first place.

And yes, this is very, very serious. I'm thinking the FIA needs to make a statement here. Kick Pirelli out at season's end (I see no viable quick fixes here) and use the hardest compound only for the rest of the season? These types of incidents could very well get someone killed if they continue to happen!

Pirelli are not only producing unsafe tyres, they have also been all over the media complaining and trying to put the blame on others. It's the FIA's fault, it's Lotus and Force India... blah blah, cry me a r

Giveway

July 01, 2013 11:39 AM

Agreed sodesu, there is no quick fix that I can see either, other than reverting back to last years/previous compound/s, that could be what they do... I do believe Pirelli should not be involved in Formula1 next season, they have, as MJ-Brundle said, tarnished their reputation seriously an should think about their position for their own good, maybe not (at least) as a sole tyre supplier anyway.

sodesu

July 01, 2013 11:45 AM

Yeah, last season's tyres would probably be a good idea. Although it's hard to say how they will work with this year's cars. Horner has been advocating this rather strongly which makes sense given that it suited their car much better than what we've had this year. So it's not exactly fair but yes, it should be much safer.

Taz

July 01, 2013 11:56 AM

@sodesu

Is it not to late in the day to get another manufacturer in to F1 for next season?

Only Bridgestone and Michelin could seriously pull this off and Bridgestone aren't interested, too busy making useless rubber for MotoGP.

pcxmac

July 01, 2013 12:00 PM
Last Edited 480 days ago

fault Pirelli all you want, but the FIA are doing their part in making sure Pirelli can't improve their formula.

Too bad the FIA can't sanction themselves, something similar to note in terms of tires, forcing bikes to a control tire has done something similar in MotoGP where teams are limited on testing and forced on to tires that might cause safety issues.... Ducati has lost out on brand image and spent millions adapting to the politics of tires in GP racing, and now Pirelli are getting the shaft due to heavy political regulation, something smells for sure.

Forcing people on to similar tires and getting rid of competitive elements cause this kind of stuff to happen, but people keep repeating the same line that putting everyone on the same tire is fair, time to wakey wayey.

Competition is not a sin, despite what the monopolists might want us to think.

over2u

July 01, 2013 12:43 PM

it would appear Charlie W under instructions from MrF1, who was also instrumental in appointing Pirelli the F1 contract, engineered the test session for MB to basically catch up and possibly hold an advantage over the other teams, given the recently appointed Woolf and Lauda part ownership and Mercedes simple question put to MrF1, of how much will cost for us to buy the world championship, becomes very clear and simple to see how the mayhem of the tyres have come about, Oh and not forgetting how no one has take the wrap for it either with the bbc clowns stating how everyone was to blame!

sodesu

July 01, 2013 4:29 PM
Last Edited 479 days ago

pcxmac, how exactly do you reach the conclusion that control tyres lead to explosions? I am all for competition too, but the lack of it now is not the cause for this. Bridgestone was the single supplier for several years without having their tyres explode five times in a race.

Taz, Michelin have stated their interest, haven't they? And if I'm not mistaken they wanted competition too. I reckon whoever they go with they should probably leave the door open for others to join aswell.

Stricter rules may be needed, perhaps something similar to the fuel regs? There are many suppliers of fuels and oils in F1 today, and yet it has never been talked about as the deciding factor of races.

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