F1 » Ferrari 'retains confidence' in Massa


Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo says he has faith in Felipe Massa but insists his team has to make improvements to keep its F1 title dreams alive

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Skooter

July 11, 2013 1:57 PM

Sadly, its time for him to go. His accident bought him more time than he really should have had. If he's that good, and equal to FA, prove it. Consistently beat him on track. Talk is cheap. Its similar to the MS/RB argument. If they were that good, they'd beat the #1 driver and become #1 themselves. The best #2 driver Ferrari have had in the last fifteen years was Eddie. He was consistently quick and pretty reliable, if not the fastest. I've never really understood why people think theres conspiricies, at either Ferrari or RB or any other. It does the team no good to have one driver failing to finish. None what so ever. In the perfect world, the drivers finish 1, 2 all the time. Give it to DiResta, see how he gets on.

richard

July 11, 2013 2:50 PM

skooter. massa would not be allowed to beat Alonso on track. he has been ahead of him and has also qualified better than him. that is the life of a number 2.

but give di resta a drive??? ha ha. Ferrari already have one driver who throws his toys out of his pram, why would they want another?

F1Rules

July 11, 2013 3:22 PM

richard,

You're completely right in some contexts, but not in all contexts. In other words, you are only making half the argument. Have you actually asked yourself WHY Ferrari would not allow Massa to hold Fernando up in those few races where he qualifies ahead? Do you think it's because the team simply "dislike" Felipe, or because Fernando has earned it in the context of every world championship battle?

Everyone can see and understand the logic of Ferrari asking Massa not to hold Fernando up, because Fernando is the one hunting Vettel down in the WDC. The point is that Fernando has put himself in the position for the team to do that - and they are not doing it for some abstract reason! If the situation was reversed, the team would do exactly the same.

And that is Skooter's point. You say that you are a die-hard tifosi, but this point seems easily lost on you...

F1Rules

July 11, 2013 3:33 PM

richard,

Don't forget that Massa had been in the team for years before Fernando arrived. He had partnered Michael and then Kimi, so he'd had plenty of opportunity to establish himself as number 1 within the team. He'd even come close to winning the WDC. But Fernando came in and grabbed the bull (or should that be prancing horse) by the horns! You may claim that it was only Massa's accident that allowed Alonso to do that, but others may disagree. It is what it is.

Ferrari have stayed loyal to Massa long after the accident, but the fact remains that Alonso is the one constantly bringing in the big points. Your analysis did not give the full picture, so that is the reason I say that you are right but not "completely" right.

richard

July 11, 2013 4:49 PM

f1rules. Alonso is the one who is bringing big bucks to Ferrari, so that is why he is guaranteed to be number 1. massa is a steady and known quantity, and having accepted being number 2 to schumi and kimi, it was natural that he would continue in that role.

and I have NEVER claimed that he has suffered because of his accident. maybe he did, maybe he didn't,but certainly on his showing this year, he is still able to pedal the Ferrari, and really is showing up ferdi a tad.

F1Rules

July 12, 2013 7:46 AM

I would also venture to add that it's not just the big bucks that "guarantees" Alonso the number 1 status. It's actually his results on the track. Remember that famous radio message? It turned out to be true after all.

But...we can agree to disagree on that point....

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