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Jenson Button says he feels McLaren could fight for a podium finish at Spa following F1's summer break

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July 31, 2013 7:12 PM

I know its not a Hamilton story but given all the hype and how much better he is than anyone else in the past or present, shouldnt Hamilton be winning every race since he joined F1. Odd then that hes hardly won anything.


August 01, 2013 4:50 AM

@icemankimi - when Lewis won the Hungarian grand prix in 2009 that McLaren was no longer a dog of a car! The previous four races Lewis finished no higher than 12th. By Hungary they sorted the car!

@roundinho - how can you say that McLaren have produced a sub-par car these last three years. In 2013 it was the fastest car more often than not only let down by some poor teamwork and some dodgy parts. But it still won 7 GPs. It certainly ended the year as the fastest car. How can that e sub-par?

And in 2010 Lewis went into the last race with the possibility of winning the title. Lewis could have won that title but for two reckless moves, a trait he continued well into 2011. McLaren won 5 GPs in 2010, 6 in 2011. How can this be sub-par? Help me out here?


August 01, 2013 4:57 AM

This often happens, a Button thread becomes a Hamilton thread but while we're on the subject, and while I think Lewis drove flawlessly last Sunday, it has to be pointed out that, but for team orders and three retirements, Rosberg would be ahead on points as well as race wins.

As for Button, he drove great last Sunday as well (there were a number of really good drives), given what he's got to work with and if they do manage to pull off a podium or two in the 2nd half of the year it would be no mean achievement!


August 01, 2013 9:07 AM

I think you'll find that McLaren nearly always used a split strategy which put Kovy futher down the grid. They say they treat both drivers equally but they also treated one driver MORE equally !


August 01, 2013 9:10 AM


I can definitely understand what your saying.And I was there for all those wins too......Canada 2011 (??) is one of my all time favorite races. (The wet race with button)

I suppose the only measure of success is Red Bull in Formula 1 at the moment, and be honest, Mclaren havent come close to that really. I'm more having a go at the mentality of the team, they're hoping for podiums......they should be hoping for 1-2 finishes EVERY race, as Red Bull do. They're no longer a "force" in F1 like your Lotus', RB's........I hope they turn it round, i really do. Somethings gotta give though, possibly Mr. Whitmarsh's head should roll after this season?


August 01, 2013 9:35 AM

Mecca needs a good development driver. Jenson and Perez are good racers,but a team needs a driver who knows what he wants from the car. Not ask for a teammate's setup if you have no clue,I take nothing away from Jenson,but his WDC title was largely helped by Rubens. Thus the inability to sometimes set the car up correct, leads to bad feedback, bad development,bad Mecca


August 01, 2013 9:21 PM

@roundiniho - well, as Phil Hill once said, at the end of every race you have only one winner and a whole lot of losers! This is the Red Bull era, as we had the Ferrari era, the Williams era, Lotus, etc. You just have to hand it to them, amazing consistency over 4 years (nearly 5 if you include the 2nd half of 2009).

You're right, serious questions do need to be asked at McLaren, as to who's right to take the team forward. I just wonder where Paddy Lowe was in all of this. You take the fastest car at the end of last season, regulations stay the same, one year only til major engine change, and you go for a radical re-design?!? Madness! I only hope that what they've been through this year really does translate into an advantage next year, as Jenson hopes!

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