F1 » Hamilton happy with third, but still chasing wins

Lewis Hamilton admits that Red Bull had just too much in hand for Mercedes in qualifying for the Japanese GP, but insists that he was still hoping to out-race them.

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October 12, 2013 12:30 PM

Good drive by Lewis who was quick as per usual and only god knows what he would do in a Red Bull car.

The Mercs is obviously reverting back to its poor tyre usage compared to the Lotus and the rest so i cant see Lewis keeping that position. I suppose all one can do is beat your teammate when your car struggles in a race.


October 12, 2013 2:03 PM

You don't hear the Renault runners complaining about being underpowered any more do you? I wonder why that is.

You've got to hand it to those sneaky Renault boys - first and best with the blown diffusers, and now through 'reliability tweaks' they've gone from the least powerful unit to what may in fact be the most powerful unit now.


October 12, 2013 2:46 PM

@ Snowman

That's because engine power is no longer anywhere near as important as other factors.

Tyres are by far the most important factor in modern F1 & determine most results.
Aerodynamics probably come second.
Third is probably the various DRS systems on cars.
Only about 4th is engine power.
Even worse, only about 5th is driver ability.

Maybe if the current tyres allowed drivers to race at full pace, we might hear more about the strength of the various power-plants ... but as it stands the engine with the most power could be a negative as it could damage the tyres more than a weaker engine.


October 12, 2013 5:51 PM


A post about Lewis up for a full hour and no derisive comments from Taipan, et al...

It cannot be due to the third position given his qualifying statistics this year (top) hence I have to assume there is some sort of anti Hamilton party somewhere?

Perhaps just perhaps, they are showing a little respect for a rather sad occurrence this weekend. Apparently caused by injuries from the previous accident. It may not be as lethal as Moto GP but given the risks, I do hope they are perhaps reconsidering the rather ridiculous attitudes to the competitors that regardless of personal foibles, do provide us with considerable excitement thanks to their skill and bravery.

Go and race something sometime - you will have an even greater appreciation.


October 12, 2013 8:03 PM

Don't be silly, doctorG. They will be back soon enough.

Good drive by all today. Mark did well to get pole, Seb did well to get second with or without KERS, good show from Lewis, Massa out qualifying his team mate again...

Shaping up for an okay race. Red Bulls will still be dominant though..


October 13, 2013 12:18 AM

I like how the comment containing

"but as it stands the engine with the most power could be a negative as it could damage the tyres more than a weaker engine"

Has 4 agrees and no disagrees, like it's a plausible suggestion that less power could in fact be better. I'm sure Brawn and Horner and their chums are doing some serious beard stroking about how much time hacking 50bhp out of their motors could gain them.


October 13, 2013 4:02 AM
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you guys are assuming the renault motor doesnt make more power than the mercedes motor, go back to the US F1 round last year, you can clearly see Vettel pulling away from Hamilton down the straight until Lewis could almost grab the draft and almost catch Vettel down at the end.

Those motors are fuel limited *(and sealed), they do not make max power, and the renault engine supposedly gets better fuel mileage, which means it can produce more power with the same amount of fuel :)

this isnt the days of refueling when fuel could be better spread out to aid optimum power and reliability. F1 is going slower, not faster, and its all because people seem to believe in fairness, and the state.

now lets see F1 impose laws that restrict aero, and then lets add some more weight, and then lets make the fuel tanks smaller, and see how slow we go then, all to glorify the rule makers and absent minded stupidity, appreciating austerity, and learning to be serfs.


October 13, 2013 9:39 PM

Formula 1 engines design up to the present 2.4l v8's , the number one objective always was and still is that of extracting maximum power output (BHP) at the maximum engine RPM possible and lately at the mandatory maximum RPM, anything else always was and still is secondary to that design objective, fuel consumption depends totally on power output, at this level of engine making an engine with a better fuel consumption can only means less power output, assuming that the differences in power output of the present v8's are irrelevant as to winning a race or not, the biggest one item effecting fuel consumption will be the load added by aerodynamics capabilities/effectiveness of the car, as this will alter the power-to-weight ratio of the car, the more the weight of the car (aero can add as much as twice the weight of the car) the higher the fuel consumption.

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