F1 » David Tremayne: Red Bull wins amid questions

Three time Guild of Motoring Writers Journalist of the Year Award winner David Tremayne casts his eye back over the Japanese Grand Prix...

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October 14, 2013 10:20 AM
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Vettel managed his tires better than Webber. That is the reason Vettel won and Webber got second.
I must admit, like the blind posters here, that during the race and immediately after I looked to my wife and said "looks like they punked Webber out so Vettel could win."
And I am a diehard Vettel fan.
But after the race I was able to analyze new reports and such here at Crash.net and elsewhere, and I found that Webber had prematurely burnt up his tires in the beginning of the race trying to keep up with Grosjean. He had to come in earlier than planned for the first stop. So they needed to add an extra stop later on.
To the uninformed it DID look like maybe Red Bull were getting Webber out of Seb's way, but not so.
Webber even said himself that he prematurely used up his tires at the beginning of the race chasing Grosjean.


October 14, 2013 10:49 AM


Pointless explaining that fact, someone on the other thread is accusing them of running traction control while overlooking the fact the fact that the Sauber has traction which is just as good and you'd think that two cars running TC would have had better starts. Apparently they have 4WD and ABS too.


October 14, 2013 11:35 AM


U high?

Here at crash.net you have whole article about Webber telling it was not his call for three stops and how his tires were good for two stops, instead you made YOUR OWN analysis of his lap times and cornering and YOU say that it was the right call?

Are you applying for a job at RBR?


October 14, 2013 11:55 AM

The way some people are going on you'd think it was unusual for Vettel to beat Webber and the only explanation is skulduggery from the team.

15 races so far this season and Vettel has finished ahead of Webber on every occasion other than when his gearbox broke. So it's perfectly normal for Vettel to beat Webber, fanciful conspiracies are not required.

Before I get accused of being an anti-Aussie Webber hating Pom, I'd like to add that out of all the drivers on the grid I'd probably most like to have a pint with Webber, he's a top bloke but that doesn't change the fact that he's been out classed by Vettel all season and again yesterday.


October 14, 2013 12:00 PM

In my opinion it was a rubbish race. Cars circulating on rubbish tyres to get to a point where they can use them to get to the finish. Where has motor sport gone ??? There is no more real racing. KERRs and flappy rear wings you can only use to overtake, absolute RUBBISH ???

And the drivers don't like the system very much neither. Why doesn't "Crash" do some genuine investigative journalism ???????


October 14, 2013 12:13 PM

Limbus, Webber took the easy way out, a way that he could always fall back on after the race he left it to the team to decide his strategy but I am sure he could tell as to his tyre situation.
The blatant anti-Vettel bias of the majority of the British pundits is getting very tedious indeed with the unfortunate result that most but not all of their puppets (listeners/followers) cannot form their own opinion and so have to base things on what these pundits fuel their minds with (small hints and digs) a la Brundle, Ted and now also of MRS “Toto”.
Facts are, and that regardless of what Webber spouts out and also regardless of the small digs and hints from the SKY pundits that Webber is just not good enough compared to Vettel.


October 14, 2013 12:13 PM

Taz, Mark had the chance to win yesterday, after his 3rd stop he was on fresher, faster compound tyres, only 7 seconds behind Vettel with 11 laps to go but he sat behind GroJo for 9 laps. That's what stopped him winning not RBR. Some people are just unwilling to accept that harsh reality.

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