F1 » Brawn downplays fuel saving fears


Ross Brawn says he doesn't feel teams will be forced into fuel-saving mode during the 2014 F1 season

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107SS2009

October 19, 2013 5:36 AM

Richard and Taipan, on a more serious not and my opinion only.
F1 engines next year will be limited to 15k rpm, but I say that in the race they are unlikely to run over 12500rpm to conserve fuel and they are more likely to run consistently at around the 11500rpm mark, the engines will be made to limit themselves to the fuel flow limitations in the race but in qualifying they will run and be restricted by the fuel flow regulations.

Taipan

October 19, 2013 11:32 AM

Sunny, I don't mind a degree of fuel saving because doing it successfully takes good driver management and that's a skill.
Fuel management used to be used as an over taking aide long before DRS and KERS was invented, turn up the boost or engine power to over take but do it too often and you'll run out of fuel, that took a lot more skill than just pressing the DRS button.
I would have thought they'd be running closer to the limit than you're suggesting but I can't back that up with any facts, just my feeling.

107SS2009

October 19, 2013 12:46 PM

Taipan, re backing of what one says, I said that this was “my opinion only” but not to worry, I will stand with what I said all of which is based on my calculations which in turn are based on my limited technical knowledge. When a man the calibre of Brawn talks technical matters it is sometimes not easy to decipher what he says. The fuel management you talked about is totally different from what the FIA is mandating now, at that time it was a limit on fuel carried, there was no limit what a driver can use at any point (fuel flow) , but now the mandated fuel carried will also have a fuel flow limit. Next year the engines will run in two modes, qualifying mode limited by mass flow and race mode were the engines will be run in self regulating fuel mode to get over the race finish line with a maximum 100 kg of fuel.

Buzz45

October 20, 2013 10:43 AM

I reckon it's far to complicated for the layman to follow. It's bad enough with the DRS and now energy saving and kers or whatever it's going to be next year, it's getting pretty complex. Add in the different tyres etc., etc.to complicate it even more. Bring back those screamimg 3 litre V10s and have two shorter races or something where at least they can actually race flat out. F1 should not be an endurance race limited by fuel or tyres. What's the point of having all that power if it can't be used. It's a bit like asking a footballer not to kick a ball too many times to preserve the leather, or whatever a ball is made from now!

107SS2009

October 20, 2013 12:06 PM

The formula one technicalities are extremely complicated and the rules keeps pushing them to be extremely more complicated.
But reading carefully (sometimes in between the lines) and using common sense will give real or some hints.
Such as the fuel restriction rules for 2014 new power plants, FUEL FLOW = must be a maximum of 100kg per hour. FUEL LOAD = each car will be allocated a maximum of 100kg of fuel for the race.
Now start reasoning out the effects of these two rules on the possibilities of full throttle use in the race, fuel flow at 100kg/h and fuel load at 100kg/for the whole race, a race is normally 90 minutes long and a maximum of 120 minutes.

richard

October 20, 2013 12:08 PM

buzz. screaming v10s? rad the comments here. the turbos will be even more screaming, and many are bemoaning the raised volume! apart from that, I doubt that the engine manufacturers would be able to create turbos that could be capable of 2000 bhp, but what use would that be? the cars would be projectiles and almost uncontrollable.

107SS2009

October 20, 2013 12:34 PM

Richard, the 1.5l 4 cylinder turbocharged BMW of the past using a cast iron production block was producing 1500 HP with the technology and knowhow of that time, Berger once described that car a ROCKET but still he managed to control it during a race.
Once upon a time Formula one used to be all about the maximum HP output one can extract from the mandated cubic capacity in effect at the time.

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