F1 » Horner: F1 should be open-minded on customer cars

Christian Horner says F1 should be open-minded on the issue of customer cars - but the Red Bull man doesn't seem to have much support from fellow team principals

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October 25, 2013 9:23 PM
Last Edited 673 days ago

Toro Rosso has had to invest in engineering and equipment to manufacture and test their own proprietary car as have all the teams. If customer cars came in they would lose all that value in their team at the very least.
Also, I imagine once the smaller teams have lost their manufacturing abilities the cost of customer cars will skyrocket and they will be struggling to remain in the game using the big team cast-offs with no chance of ever moving up the order. Sounds like a great deal, right?


October 25, 2013 9:51 PM
Last Edited 673 days ago

I'm afraid if you want to buy a car, lease an engine package, put in a pay driver or two & run a race team ... there are plenty other series around the world where you can do that..

F1 has got to stick with teams manufacturing their own car.

Where they do need to regulate - & by default cut costs - is an environment where teams need 500 people to build and race 2 cars.
More common components should be sourced rather than manufactured & teams of 100 people should be more than adequate for F1.

If Williams, McLaren, or any team wants to retain all their people & not lay anyone off, then they must run a proper business & develop products for other markets too.


October 25, 2013 10:05 PM

for those too young to remember what f1 used to be like, customer cars were quite the norm. quite a lot of teams used customer cars, and that is how Williams started. and at one time, march supplied about 5 teams.
I am all for customer cars.then there can be no excuses for lack of performance!


October 25, 2013 10:53 PM

@ Richard

Different world.
There was a time when you could race the same cars in different championships.
Try getting a F2 or Indycar through official scrutineering with Charlies team now ...


October 26, 2013 4:07 AM

Why do the teams act as if they would be FORCED to lay people off and buy customer cars.

If FI didn't want a customer car, nobody would be forcing them or any other team to buy one.

On the other hand it would allow for more teams to enter the sport while also allowing the teams to save money by selling off their cars.

FI is only against it cause nobody would buy their junk.

Open the rules up and institute budget caps and the sports problems would disappear. 150 million per team, any engine config/size, standard low profile wheels, open tire war (all homologated and available to anyone) and their is your "formula" for true F1 DNA.


October 26, 2013 5:14 PM

Problem is, in the short term it might not be that bad, but in the long term it will no longer be profitable for all the smaller teams to build their own cars and you end up with either Indycar or a MotoGP type situation where 2 or 3 serious teams are complemented by a bunch of runners who are not really allowed to compete to have the idea of a full grid. Because they run on different rules and cheaper, they can never be allowed to surpass the real serious teams.

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