F1 » RBR claims new pit-stop record


Turning Mark Webber around in less than two seconds creates new standard for four-tyre pit-stops.

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ThePaddock1

November 19, 2013 1:15 PM
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could not believe it when webber pitted and the 2.2 secs came up(even know there saying it was1.98) its incredible how the guys at rbr do it that quick, this team is slick at everything.

bobsmyname

November 19, 2013 2:01 PM

@Taipan

On the subject of traction control - I'm in no way trying to take away from Vettel's achievements, but many actual experts believe that RedBull may indeed have some form of traction control by using the KERS.

I'm probably late on this, but I found some very interesting articles on it. If it's true, good for them - RedBull engineers really are the best!

Just search for RedBull KERS traction control. There's loads of articles on it.

Taipan

November 19, 2013 2:13 PM

Bob, I think I've read them all. It's been mooted as an explanation to their performance for a while. then
Giancarlo Minardi brought it up again after Singapore and got everyone talking about it again.

It's a great car and it has great traction but I really don't see how it would be possible to run TC these days and not get caught.

richard

November 19, 2013 2:45 PM

bob. ANY thing that replicates traction control is banned. following moans from others, all red bulls programmes and telemetry have been checked and double checked, and there is NOTHING that provides traction control. however, if you listened to brundle on Saturday, you will have heard him saying that seb is the only driver who can balance the power coming out of a corner, and is on the throttle 15 m before anyone else. I might guess that he is applying a little braking at the same time as accelerating, thus getting the engine properly on cam but avoiding excessive wheelspin .

Taipan

November 19, 2013 2:56 PM

Richard, Good call about the braking, used to do it in rallying (although that was the other way round) in a front wheel drive dab a little left foot brake to put more weight over the front wheels to get more traction on acceleration, especially on uphill bends.

mrfill

November 19, 2013 3:55 PM

On one of the lead in programs there were shots of the RB9 and other cars showing the vortices produced by the RB9 which swirled neatly around the side. On all the other cars, the air was not swirling but just dissipating.
The trained vortex from the RB9 increases downforce to the rear, lifting the front during braking. It drops on acceleration, increasing grip again.
You never see the vortices normally but in the misty conditions in FP1 they were quite clear.

Taipan

November 19, 2013 9:43 PM

Mrfill, I seen the vortices on the Ferrari's in free practice, must have missed it on the RBR's, quite interesting to see, our very on private wind tunnels thanks to the humidity. One of the commentators mentioned that every designer in the paddock would be studying those pictures!

107SS2009

November 19, 2013 9:45 PM

I know and acknowledge that the RB9 has passed all tests for any illegalities but all those tests does not in any way contradict what Minardi said after Singapore, meanwhile both the KERS (modulation) to help brake/slow the engine and the cutting-off of 4 out of the 8 cylinders has been the topic as the suspect of the RB9'S traction control simulation.

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