F1 » Force India: Lotus a 'stumbling block' on driver front

Robert Fernley: We don't really know which drivers are available yet.

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November 27, 2013 1:53 PM

What the hell is a "non-manufacturer team" and how are Force India the first of them? Every team is required to manufacture their own chassis, so how is any team a "non-manufacturer"? Red Bull don't manufacture cars like Ferrari and Mercedes, so that can't be it as RBR won the championship. Red Bull is also a customer team for engines, so that can't be it.

Damnit crash.net, stop making stuff up! :)


November 27, 2013 2:30 PM

Their priority must be something like this - 1st Perez or Maldonado for the ££,£££,£££, 2nd Hulkenberg or di Resta for the certainty of performance. So, basically di Resta only gets a seat if the proverbial hits the fan, which isn't out of the question.

I think if the Lotus deal goes through then they would be wise to take on Hulkenberg which might mean that either both Perez and Maldonado end up at SFI or Perez and di Resta do. Again, it doesn't look good for di Resta.


November 27, 2013 3:21 PM
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Surely it's clear from what Fernley actually says that they want drivers who perform, not bring money...

Surely the fact they want Hulkenberg and DON'T want Potato Moldynacho says that clearly.


Red Bull are the Renault pseudo-works team. They don't pay for their engines.


November 27, 2013 4:33 PM

I don't at all feel they are going to sign up just for money - that team has been much more mature of the lot in my opinion.
I guess Perez is pretty much done as martin whitmarsh has spilled the beans but they will not announce and sign it yet - which clearly says they are awaiting on Hulkenberg, Fernely just confirmed it.
If Hulk goes to Lotus or stays as Sauber they will prolly retain Di Resta and take on Perez. - Pastor at Force India is very unlikely, he himself will rather try for Sauber


November 27, 2013 8:23 PM

Maldonado to Sauber, Hulkenberg to Lotus, and di Resta and Perez to Force India would probably be the best outcome. Hopefully Lotus sorts it's finances out and can make that a reality.


November 27, 2013 9:56 PM

@Optimaximal - so if RBR are Renault's pseudo works team, what does that make Lotus? They finished ahead of Force India as well. And McLaren certainly aren't a works team.

I disagree that Red Bull is Renault's pseudo works team just because they don't pay for engines. That's a commercial arrangement for engine supply and support, not full in-house car development.

However you define define the term, Force India did not finish as first "non-manufacture team". Instead of making stuff up that doesn't make any sense, how about simply saying that Force India finished an impressive 6th?


November 27, 2013 11:34 PM
Last Edited 730 days ago

Lotus are a customer team and have been since 2011. Renault gave them engines in 2010 as they were still carrying the brand and hadn't offloaded their share in the team at that point.

On RBR - I cant paste the link, but search for "Red Bull Racing now the 'factory' Renault team" on this very site.

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