F1 » Watson: Whitmarsh unlikely to stay


John Watson: It has got the potential to be a massive change in direction now that Ron [Dennis] has got control of the F1 team.

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karlo56

January 18, 2014 10:04 AM

The fact that Whitmarsh was not at the meeting where Ron the magnificent gave his speech to all the other Mclaren operatives says it all really,and I cant see any other position being made for Whitmarsh within the team. All I can say is, its about time.

Mclaren now needs a team principal who has a past history of success. Hmmm let me see, what about the new CEO of Mclaren? When this guy has been in-charge he has instigated success with the very best drivers in F1, with names Like Prost, Senna and Hamilton. Ron was able to get the best out of these with Prost being the best for strategy , Senna the most complete F1 driver and Hamilton being the most successful debutant in F1 history. For me it is a no-brainer who should be Team principal . I think Ross Brawn has got fishing on his mind at the moment.

TomTom

January 18, 2014 11:06 AM
Last Edited 217 days ago

Martin's 2 big mistakes:
1 Changed the Car design for 2013
2. Hamilton left for Merc

Welcome back Ron Denis
Welcome aboard Ross Brown
And
Welcome back Hamilton (in 2015 ?)

Ron Dennis+Ross Brown+Lewis Hamilton = Dream Team

karlo56

January 18, 2014 11:39 AM

@ Tom Tom Button said that the Mp4-28 was a second quicker than the 27 it was that Mclaren's improvement margin was not of that compared to the other top four teams.

As for the driver, a quick driver will always get more out of a dog car than a smooth driver.

Taipan

January 18, 2014 12:04 PM

I love this idea that instant success will be the result of Dodgy Ron returning. 1 Constructors championship in 22 years despite having drivers like Mika and Kimi and a designer like Newey, and who was principal for most of that time, Devious Dennis the man who some of you think can do no wrong.

As for karlo (?) mentioning Lulu in the same sentence as Prost and Senna isn't there a law against that? there should be!

benignlyindifferent

January 18, 2014 12:19 PM

I am certain there are many, many reasons why this is occurring at this time. Some are performance related, some have to do with ego. Clearly, the manner in which Whitmarsh has organized and staffed the team differs from Ron's methodology. There are no quick fixes. But I think one of the final nails in the coffin were the frequent comments by Whitmarsh through the latter part of the season, justifying poor results and setting goals that you would expect from a tier 2 team. The optics suggested McLaren had become a team prepared to settle. This will not have gone down well with the Board, knowing the value of their other high end businesses such as the aeronautics field, that are branded as being the very best available in the world. I suspect a contract with Brawn is signed and we are just watching the play unfold over the next month or so.

seashack

January 18, 2014 1:13 PM
Last Edited 219 days ago

karlo.... Ron instigated success out of the drivers..... that's funny. Are you just trolling here? K, I'll bite this once.

Prost, Coulthard, Montoya, Raikkonen, Alonso and even Hamilton all could not get away from the team quick enough. Mansell and Andretti also left under negative circumstances. Hakkinen won the title twice then retires early..... Why? Maybe from the stress from the team Lewis talked about?? Seems most of the drivers of the last 20+ years left under negative terms with the team.

Ron has had one of the best teams and quite often one of the best cars, remind me how many championshiops they have won over the last 20+ years? In 07 & 08 they possibly could have won the WCC and WDC both years, yet they only won 1 out of 4 titles. In 07 they definitely lost the WCC because of Ron's driver MISmanagement. ... cont

seashack

January 18, 2014 1:15 PM

Ron Dennis has always been one of the worst at managing his drivers and seems to bring out the worst in them, not the best. Putting the success of drivers like Senna and Prost down to Ron is ignorant and insulting to the talent of those drivers. They had proven themselves BEFORE going to McLaren. Ron hired them because they were the best, he didn't make make them that way. As for Lewis we will never know how good he would have been without Ron's influence as far I'm concerned because Ron got involved with him so early. Are YOU saying he would not have been as good without Ron??

Before Hamilton there was Villeneuve. Hamilton equaled Jacques record, but did not surpass it . Both 4 wins and second in the championship, then both won the title in their 2nd season. Is Jacques success also due to Ron?

Taipan

January 18, 2014 1:29 PM

SeaShack, Good spot on the Troll front, any new account with an unhealthy love of Lulu and a starry eyed view of Ron should be treated with suspicion.
Another good way to Troll spot, other than the abysmal spelling, is his fear of anything Scottish (see above) I believe the Civil Service sent him on a typists course in Glasgow some time ago and some bad boys beat him up and stole his lunch money and sent him homewards to think again....

benignlyindifferent

January 18, 2014 1:29 PM

I understand people's dislike of Ron, but to think that the successful drivers of the past just hopped into cars and made magic is foolish. For all his faults, Ron oversaw the golden era of McLaren, one he largely shaped and organized, and which produced constructor and driver championships. Much of the stress between drivers was due to the fact that number one drivers were not allowed, though we all know there were favourites. McLaren was and is a big team with big egos. Prost? Honda backed Senna, who Ron hired to get the Honda engines. Too bad for Prost but who wouldn't make this move? Hakkinen? Retired with McLaren. Senna? Did not abandon Ron but went to the all conquering Williams with the hope of another title, and continued to phone Ron several times a week. Montoya? Big fan but his temperament was his own enemy. So now Ron returns to the top, initiates a purge of sorts, and if the press is correct will likely hire Ross Brawn within a very short time frame. Like him or hate him,

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