F1 » Raikkonen paid ‘a big price’ for Magnussen error


Kimi Raikkonen says Ferrari paid "a big price" for Kevin Magnussen's error in the Malaysian Grand Prix

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bobRIP

March 31, 2014 6:12 AM

I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned that was Kimi's fault. Magnussen was as far to the right as he could go and Kimi cut across him. Exactly how that was Magnussen's fault I don't know.

The FIA have made it quite clear that any driver with ANY part of his car alongside another car should be given room. Quite clearly, Magnussen had part of his car alongside Kimi.

At the time of the accident Mag was stearing AWAY from Kimi, yet they made contact, so how can it be Magnussen's fault?

This is very much like Kimi vs Alonso is Japan. Kimi had his front wing alongside Alonso but Alonso cut across him. Alonso got a puncture and was subsequently put out of the race. Kimi didn't get a penalty for that.

EdOz

March 31, 2014 6:15 AM

How Ricciardo gets a sheet long number of penalties after doing nothing wrong and having the team ruin his race (but NO ONE ELSE's) and Mag only gets a 5sec penalty is a bit beyond me...

Mind you, I'm not saying Magnussen deserved Daniel's penalty. He obviously didn't mean to hit Raikkonen and could never have guessed that it would ruin the Finn's race. I do think a simple 5sec penalty sound a bit too easy when you destroy someone else's race, especially since you can serve it along with your tire change anyway.

JedPB67

March 31, 2014 6:44 AM

@EdOz you make it sound like the Red Bull mechanics intentionally ruined Ricciardo's race.

Anyway Magnussen shouldn't have had a penalty, it wasn't a dangerous move, it wasn't in an obscure place for an overtake, it wasn't at high speed, he was partly alongside Raikkonen, there was a gap more than big enough for him when he committed to the corner and the overtake.

Come to think of it, it was the very definition of a racing incident.

EdOz

March 31, 2014 7:11 AM

JedPB67: @EdOz you make it sound like the Red Bull mechanics intentionally ruined Ricciardo's race.



Certainly didn't mean to... my point is that he was a witness to what unfolded more than a participant, let alone the cause of it. And on top of that, the event only ruined his own race.

Mag's mistake cost Kimmi his race and was caused by a mistake from the driver. My point is, why punish Ricciardo so harshly if the mistake was done by RBR? Wouldn't it make more sense to punish RBR with the loss of manufacturer points rather than punish the driver who never actually did anything wrong?

fourteenseven

March 31, 2014 10:09 AM

bobRIP: I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned that was Kimi's fault. Magnussen was as far to the right as he could go and Kimi cut across him. Exactly how that was Magnussen's fault I don't know.

The FIA have made it quite clear that any driver with ANY part of his car alongside another car should be given room. Quite clearly, Magnussen had part of his car alongside Kimi.

At the time of the accident Mag was stearing AWAY from Kimi, yet they made contact, so how can it be Magnussen's fault?

This is very much like Kimi vs Alonso is Japan. Kimi had his front wing alongside Alonso but Alonso cut across him. Alonso got a puncture and was subsequently put out of the race. Kimi didn't get a penalty for that.

Nothing like Suzuka, more like Bahrain where you screamed the loudest that Perez had driven into the back of Button

bobRIP

March 31, 2014 10:54 AM


Nothing like Suzuka, more like Bahrain where you screamed the loudest that Perez had driven into the back of Button


Actually, it was EXACTLY like suzuka and NOTHING like Bahrain.

Mag was turning AWAY from Kimi and was so far to the right that he was half off the track. Kimi cut across Mag and his tyre hit the side of Mag's wing. Watch the replay.

JedPB67

March 31, 2014 10:57 AM

EdOz: punish RBR with the loss of manufacturer points rather than punish the driver who never actually did anything wrong?


I, personally, think that even a points fine against the team is still very harsh...perhaps a monetary fine for the team is more fitting, but not a large sum.

R.L.Felix

March 31, 2014 2:16 PM

JedPB67:
EdOz: punish RBR with the loss of manufacturer points rather than punish the driver who never actually did anything wrong?


I, personally, think that even a points fine against the team is still very harsh...perhaps a monetary fine for the team is more fitting, but not a large sum.


If the drivers can get points on their licence why not the team? X penalty points = 1 Constructors point.

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