F1 » Six of the Best: Fernando Alonso wins


In the latest 'Six of the Best' feature, Crash.net's Will Saunders looks at some of Fernando Alonso's finest victories

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throttlemeister

May 05, 2014 3:17 PM

There are different kinds of very good drivers. Vettel and Raikonen are extremely fast when given a good or great car. Schumacher had a gift to collect the right people around him. Alonso is able to drive a car faster and make it look better than it actually is.

nealio

May 05, 2014 6:07 PM

When will Ferrari produce a car worthy of Fernando's talents! Alonso may have to leave the scuderia to capture that third championship. A brilliant racer, his one fault is not choosing the right team at the right time. Nonetheless he has a the commitment and tenacity twhich will aid him through these tough times, I think.

JJJ

May 05, 2014 6:36 PM
Last Edited 234 days ago

throttlemeister: There are...car faster and make it look better than it actually is.


Agreed...I do however see one potential problem in that FA's style is pretty aggressive in that he apparently really takes a car by the scruff of the neck and hustles it around a race track. It's one of the things that makes it quite hard for his teammates who generally prefer a smoother style and a car that's a bit happier to turn in and roll around corners with speed on its own to match him when the car is built around FA's input.

But...what if that means and is one of the reasons for the car being built to his liking simply not being quick enough?

I'm thinking like in the NBA, you can play an aggressive offence style called 'run the floor' and you can score a lot of points doing it and have a stat sheet like a superhero, but you'll never win the title, cause at one point there'll be a defensive team you can't score enough against and they'll beat you.

JJJ

May 05, 2014 6:43 PM
Last Edited 232 days ago

I still think when the car is well sorted and the driver doesn't need to race around the intrinsic flaws of the car, a guy like Hamilton or Kimi (in his prime) would simply be quicker than FA.

We've seen this in the past as well at McLaren 07 and even somewhat when Trulli was his teammate at Renault. He was another one of these guys that were very quick when everything worked fine and ran FA pretty close. A good amount of times he too was simply quicker than FA when he had everything sorted, but obviously he was too inconsistent and his level dropped through the floor when the confidence wasn't there, which was made even more painfully apparent by Alonso himself of course as probably his biggest strength is to have a very high base level of performance.

marius120

May 05, 2014 9:02 PM

jjj i'm sorry to tell u but in 2007 at mclaren his main problem was ron dennis and some political problems and not hamilton like most of hamilton's fans think,idk beetwen them who is the fastest ,but overall quali and race i think given the same car alonso would beat hamilton as he is more consistent then ever those days and he is more mature then 2007 and for sure he wont make the same mistakes like in 07,and this is coming from a senna fan who nowdays is just trying to enjoy those boring "races"

JJJ

May 05, 2014 10:37 PM

marius120: jjj i... "races"


Well I can't be classified as either a Hamilton or FA fan but my read on the 2007 situation is FA had the upper hand in the team (McLaren being one of the teams where the 1st/2nd driver hierarchy is not that prominent) at least for the first part of the year. Then Hamilton performed above expectation and maybe the balance shifted a bit in his favour.

However you say now FA would beat Hamilton cause he'd be make even less mistakes than then, but remember Hamilton blew a 16 point lead during the last 2 races making mistakes...and that weren't his only mistakes that year.

And then of course Tarso Marques also beat him in the end of the year standings at Minardi :D

marius120

May 06, 2014 12:02 AM

say what u say jjj for me this guy(alonso) is maybe the only driver close to senna's level and u guys can disagree with my next comment but also i think that vettel(even if i don't like him but i have to admit it...)at the end of his career will be considered top 3 of all time.

jesse

May 06, 2014 12:14 AM
Last Edited 233 days ago

Not to remove anything form FA talent but I'm always bemused when people claim he drives a car better than it is (some time ago some were even talking of 6 tenth!!! a lap). Is he carrying it on his back?
Or is it because he dominated a happy-to-be-second-fiddle Massa who anyway was never a great (Silverstone 2008) or is currently punishing Raikkonen who is too happy to be known as the laziest F1 driver in a time where there is so much to learn and has either refused or is simply unable to change his driving style?
Considering Webber result last year and following the same logic one can also claim Vettel add a whole second. And please don't tell me SV was privileged over MW, we all know what Massa life was like in the last 4 years and still don't know why FA used KR chassis in Bahrain test.
Now Ricciardo vs Vettel so far... no point starting this...

Mark _

May 06, 2014 12:24 AM

jesse: still don't know why FA used KR chassis in Bahrain test.


Try to keep up. This has been stated numerous times on these forums.

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