F1 » Ferrari confirms Marmorini exit


Ferrari F1 engine man Luca Marmorini is to leave the team as part of a restructuring of the Scuderia's power unit department - official

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LoveF1

August 03, 2014 5:59 PM

Some might say Ferrari is not making these changes fast enough. Others might say that Domenicali and Marmorini are being used as fall guys or scapegoats for the Ferrari underperformance. Are these two guys the ones who underperformed themselves? Or are they the ones that employed the wrong people at Ferrari - after the disbanding of the dream team?

Who can say who is really at fault regarding the Ferrari slump in form? Or are Ferrari just suffering from being the marquee team in F1 - and coming second is just not good enough? Where every season without trophies is viewed as a monumental failure? Is Scuderia Ferrari suffering from the "curse" of being the oldest and most traditional team in the sport?

107SS2009

August 05, 2014 7:07 AM

zib:
107SS2009: All three engines on the grid will be improved with the allowed changes, no doubt there, the important thing will be how big an improvement ......



Lets hope FERRARI and Renault improve their engines.Till then we will watch battle for the third place.

Unless Merc run into issues... :P


I personally don't believe that whatever improvement that FERRARI and Renault can come up with for the rest of the season they can manage to bridge the gap to Mercedes this season.

107SS2009

August 05, 2014 7:02 AM

here4thesun2:
107SS2009 :
it is harder to improve on an already good engine than on one that is not so good


Seems like a simple truth. Yet, the quote bears repeating, and often. Hard to improve upon perfection.

Same is concerned for team, car, parts, and driver that make up the goods. Nothing to add more than that.


Some drivers will earn their first grid penalty with their next due replacement (sixth component) of some of the five components that make-up the PU, meaning they have already used their allocated fifth component.
Some others are close behind them, while the rest are close to that lot.
Five PU'S and five components of each five that makes up the PU was always going to be very tight. And for next year it will get tighter with only four permitted.

107SS2009

August 04, 2014 12:10 PM

All three engines on the grid will be improved with the allowed changes, no doubt there, the important thing will be how big an improvement any of them will make, it is harder to improve on an already good engine than on one that is not so good, all this is said with the understanding that there is no design flow in the over 50% of those PU parts that are already frozen this year and so can only be changed given an equalization derogation.
but having said all that I read that the pressure having been put on the FIA has pushed the FIA to decide to allow for some improvements this second half of the season on reliability grounds.

zib

August 05, 2014 6:35 AM

107SS2009: All three engines on the grid will be improved with the allowed changes, no doubt there, the important thing will be how big an improvement ......



Lets hope FERRARI and Renault improve their engines.Till then we will watch battle for the third place.

Unless Merc run into issues... :P

here4thesun2

August 05, 2014 5:01 AM

107SS2009 :
it is harder to improve on an already good engine than on one that is not so good


Seems like a simple truth. Yet, the quote bears repeating, and often. Hard to improve upon perfection.

Same is concerned for team, car, parts, and driver that make up the goods. Nothing to add more than that.

runnah

July 31, 2014 7:09 PM

Well I always find it ironic when management tries to fix things by firing employees instead of themselves.

100% of the time when something in a company isn't work it's management's fault.

107SS2009

August 04, 2014 9:19 AM

ZIB, : "with freeze in engine development, will they be able to improve their engines? how does this rule work? can some one explain please?"
The FIA did not freeze PU development from the start, development is allowed with a series of restrictions over a seven-year period, the PU parts are divided into 3 categories, ranked 1,2 and 3, the total ranking for the parts is 66, from this total was derived a system of “tokens” that allow changes, example is, changes to pistons will cost 2 tokens, while changes to ignition will cost 1 token, each year the makers will be allowed to chose what parts they wish to change based on these tokens, with the annual number reducing each year, for 2015 there will be 32 tokens available, almost half of the parts in a PU, each year after that the number of tokens will be around 9%, by 2018 there will be only 15 changes allowed (23%).

zib

August 04, 2014 10:56 AM

107SS2009: ZIB, : "with freeze in engine development, will they be able to improve their engines? how does this rule work? can some one explain please?"
The FIA did not freeze PU development from the start, development is allowed with a series of restrictions over a seven-year period, the PU parts are divided into 3 categories, ranked 1,2 and 3, the total ranking for the parts is 66, from this total was derived a system of “tokens” that allow changes, example is, changes to pistons will cost 2 tokens, while changes to ignition will cost 1 token, each year the makers will be allowed to chose what parts they wish to change based on these tokens, with the annual number reducing each year, for 2015 there will be 32 tokens available, almost half of the parts in a PU, each year after that the number of tokens will be around 9%, by 2018 there will be only 15 changes allowed (23%).


Do u think FERRARI can improve their engine with the allowed changes?

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