Toto Wolff has revealed in the latest F1 engine manufacturer meeting one of the key points to improve the engine sound must not compromise keeping the hybrid part of the future power unit configuration.

Last April, it was confirmed the FIA, F1 owners Liberty, current engine manufacturers and manufacturers interested in entering the sport had set out key focus points for the future power units to be introduced from 2021.

Among the key criteria, improving the sound of the current V6 turbo power units has been made a priority after continual criticism by fans, teams and media alike for the lack of excitement compared to previous generations of F1 engines.

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In a recent engine manufacturer meeting, Mercedes team principal Wolff says it remains a vital point of focus but won't be traded against the hybrid components of the future power units - with a stress on keeping technology which is relevant to road cars.

"We'd like to keep a certain hybrid part, it needs to be affordable for all the teams, in the same way it needs to be affordable for the OEMs that produce the engines, we need to tackle the quality of sound," Wolff said. "That is something that we definitely need to tackle without losing the hybrid part."

Wolff also reiterated the other key points settled on earlier in the season, with attempts to keep costs low for all manufacturers by potentially standardising some power unit elements, but says the meeting did not decide which parts would become standardised.

"The main direction is that we don't want to deploy huge budgets again in inventing a new engine," he said. "So the basic concept should stay the same, power to weight ratio is an essential number.

"We discussed spec parts or standard parts in order to get the costs down and limit competition in other areas of the engine."

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With the spread of noise level restrictions it seems foolish to wish for louder engines. technically, loudness is a sign of wasted energy in an engine, why advertise that?

100Kg of fuel need not be any more expensive than endless development around the fringes of an essentially spec engine. Also unleash the electrical elements of the PU. Let teams make as much power as they can from KERS and whatever they come up with. That is competition and technical exploration that will benefit the auto industries products in the future.

Here Toto, I'll help you out.

"must improve without losing......our advantage"

Remove the rev limit on engines as thats not relevant to road cars for starters.

New regs - Ideally scrap most of the spec criteria of the engines such as number of cylinders, vee angle etc and instead give the teams/engine manufacturers 100KG of fuel per race to use as they see fit in getting their car over the finish line first and let the show of ingenuity re-commence after years of all cars running essentially the same engine bar small differences fans can't see or hear.

100KG of fuel limit on its own is sufficent to prevent 2000bhp monsters and 300mph

Rayzerp2: Fantastic idea in principle....but would be extremely expensive [\blockquote]
I agree with nealio above, its the endless development trying to wring out every last bhp from a spec design thats expensive. Allow engine manufactuers free reign on all aspects of a PU (incl hybrid recovery) with the only stipulation being the 100kg of fuel and perhaps some very exotic materials banned as at present isn't so expensive if everyone is doing their own thing and only having to hone it to their own criteria rather than having to get one up on the other manufactuerers. F1 wasn't so expensive in the 80's when teams had one stipulation (engine capacity) and could afford to develop very exotic engines that expired after one race or in some cases after a single qualy run on max boost.

@Stace. There is this rose tinted view that F1 was better in the old days. Wheel to wheel racing, thrilling fights for the lead lots of overtaking blah blah blah. In reality the races were more spread out than they are now, overtaking was almost impossible and the best car won the title.

That way we may get exciting racing back instead of a commentator babbling about the battle for a place between two cars 5 seconds adrift from one another based on pit stop strategy, rather than a battle of 2 or more cars following each other at a couple of feet to draft down the straight without the use of DRS

Your description of F1 sounds great. When was F1 like that? In the 'good old days' you were lucky if 5 or 6 cars were even on the same lap as the leader by the end of the race.

Taz: Here Toto, I'll help you out.

"must improve without losing......our advantage"

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I think you'll find that in F1 the idea is to build the fastest car and then try and win races.

Balam:

That way we may get exciting racing back instead of a commentator babbling about the battle for a place between two cars 5 seconds adrift from one another based on pit stop strategy, rather than a battle of 2 or more cars following each other at a couple of feet to draft down the straight without the use of DRS

Your description of F1 sounds great. When was F1 like that? In the 'good old days' you were lucky if 5 or 6 cars were even on the same lap as the leader by the end of the race.[\blockquote]

Fine, a scrap between 5 cars sounds good to me. Better than everyone driving in as clean air as possible as the cars just don't work if they are in the vicinity of another one.

Hell, 2 scraps between 3 and 2 cars would be just as good.

And if those not on the same lap can also have some great battles (as was usually more interesting than watching a solitary leader doing the rounds).

The problem now is that you have cars strung out throughout the field with a second

@Moi: Absolutely! Do the same for the other regulations as well.

Work out what you want from the spectacle and let the teams work out how to give it, rather than working our how the teams have to give it and stifle innovation as at present...

That way we may get exciting racing back instead of a commentator babbling about the battle for a place between two cars 5 seconds adrift from one another based on pit stop strategy, rather than a battle of 2 or more cars following each other at a couple of feet to draft down the straight without the use of DRS

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