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@Church . . . No, im saying if the finish line was at the point of contact, vettel would have won because he was ahead, if i wanted to watch crashes, i'd watch banger racing. Tim i saying also, and have been saying that the two of them could have taken steps to avoid the crash, if webber had been able to get away from the other four the scenario wouldnt have occured, red bull telling webber to slow down with two mclarens and his team mate a couple of seconds behind with less than twenty laps to go, was a bit ridiculous too.