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taz, having an opinion that is different to yours does not mean that i am talking down ricciardo. the simple fact is that he has done nothing as yet, to indicate that he will ever be anything other than a mid fielder. maybe he can prove me wrong eventually, but until then, i will continue to express my opinion, if that is ok with you. incidentally, your first post was an attack on me, rather than a subjective post about ricciardo. i thought that this was a forum to discuss drivers and cars.