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I beg to defer Mark, you must have had reference to a driver to spoil it for otherwise what would be the point of that rationale. Nonetheless as you rightly point out his results do matter and I retract my earlier comments. I have obviously touched on a sensitive subject here on Crash.net Its like you guys have sensed a foreign entity and its time to gather all the troops and repel whatever has come into your domain. Cheers mate I'm just kidding it was really nice having that exchange with you and Richard. Regards Salan