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Jasper, Taipan is a boxing fan and although i agree with you regards Liston and Ali be prepared for Taipan to come out with "Liston was passed it"
richy, although Ali got knocked out he went on to greatness and beating George Foreman when Ali was 32 must be the pinnacle of his success many pundits feared for Ali thinking he could be killed in the ring as Foreman had lifted Joe Frazier of his feet with a punch when they fought. As for jos he won the Spanish league last season and is becoming one of the great managers.