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As everyone can see over the last few days the Mclaren is as fast if not faster than the Redbull and its been the fastest car on average over this season but yet Hamilton and Button cant get the job done and make an impression on this championship, why is that? Ok the DNF'S dont help but then so has Vettel, remember Valencia and Monza? The point here is that the current Mclaren drivers are overrated and might even struggle against their new teamates Rosberg and Perez next season, just face it Sham is not on Vettel and Alonso's level, before the Sham lovers come out and defend him just remember Alonso lost out in 2007 because Ron loves slowing down cars that yhe team is basically racing, even if it does mean race wins and championships ars lost, look at Sham's performances at Spa, Japan and Korea, they bordered on pathetic.