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@PDM, Maybe Alonso had a way faster car theVettel until Singapore. We have no objective data to prove Ferraris are slower. They have the highest speed peak by the way but the bulls have a beter down force. Were RB's man to be Webber Alonso would would be wining efforlessly. The only way to establish whether its thecar or the driver would have them switch cars. By the way, 2 of the three wins Alonso had came from wet Quali or races plus safety cars and so on and so forth. He who has more points at at he end of the season wins. We could argue foreber about the fsstes car in the grid but that wouldnt make sense. It would if Red Bull went on winning even after Seb leaves like the Williams in the mid 90s (Hill, Frenzen, Villeneuve looked like champs on that car)