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Johno - He stayed at Macca for 2 years when the Williams were dominate. He still won races like Donington for example. He could of won a title at Louts if not for the car being so unreliable ! But at the end of the day these two are already greats who proved themselves many times without the best car so why not put your big girl panties on and want the same for Seb so he can be called a great aswell.