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josh and pizza. yes the merc has around 20 bhp than the ferrari, but what has to be taken into account is the DRIVABILITY. the renault is even less powerful, yet they have trounced the others for three years. got it? and pizza, that is my point. both engines are everybit as reliable as each other, and that was my response to the poster who insinuated that the merc was more reliable than the ferrari. its not....its equal.