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@ Richard - To your comments above. Webber fans are not fanboys for starters, nor do we state that Mark is the greatest which is the complete opposite of the "pretend Seb is not the greatest thing since sliced bread" opinion you have which disgusts me considering you are an older bloke who "has" seen "great" drivers on the track.
Remember early 2012 when you were making every excuse under the sun for Seb not winning ???? Yet got on your high horse when Newey weaved some magic ???? Mate