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george. i do have a head start on you, as a fan of f1. and by the way, i am not belittling PASSIVE agression, but i would belittle ACTIVE agression. there is a big difference. and if you do read my posts, you will see that i discuss FACTS. i cannot see how you can class these as puerile. they might not conform to your opinions and observations, but a forum is for debate. if you disagree with what i, or anyone else says, why not join in?