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John - Unregistered time to take your meds dude its f1 and webber is no diff from a lot of others and even today the skill level to drive an f1 car up the front end is better than 99& of people can do and im going with red bull racing they state they have the 2 best drivers in f1 and im just guessing here but i think they know a lot more than you or i do about f1 and drivers