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senna. no i dont like stats, as anything can be proved by them. the simple fact is that nico has won a gp, lulu hasnt. so anyone saying that lulu achieved more than nico, on a one off basis, is not being factual. when lulu has won two gps, then it will be right to say that he has achieved more than nico, (provided nico hasnt won another gp). AND, comparing the w03 to the w04 is like comparing chalk and cheese. the w03 was a mid field car, whereas the w04 is a front running car (nearly)