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john. you really are an angry young man, arent you. WHO won the wdc? was it webber? do you really believe that webber would have had a chance in a renault? and who told you that webber turned down the drive? if you believe everything that is bandied about during an off season, you are really deluded . last year, and the year before, there were rumours put about by the webber camp, as also in the lulu camp etc etc, but they were untrue. every driver "talks" to every team, but that means zilch. please show me where i can find anywhere where na firm "offer wasever madeto webber.