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rob. yes, the str was a near clone of the bull, when seb drove it, but it had an underperforming Ferrari engine and a different rear package. further, the bull at that time was nowhere! even dc or webber could not get a result in it. so seb, in a lesser car was able to beat two experienced divers in the prime car. not too bad, now, was it? and don't forget, seb was a teenager. it was not until seb got into the prime bull, that rbr results began to come.