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@Jez - i may watch motogp but i do remember that Lewis Hamilton was nutured by Ron Dennis, that Perez won a race before joining McLaren, same for Vettel
we are talking of top teams not mi-range
what i see is that Ricciardo have done nothing better than Buemi or Alguersuari and that JEV had better result in 2012 17 rank and 16 points than Rissiardo and is currently ahead of Ricciardo even with 2 DNF
so please don't give advice to other people