Which country will produce the next champion outside of Spain and Italy, and who will be the rider?

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Mon, 12/18/2017 - 15:54
motorsportnewbie
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Which country will produce the next champion outside of Spain and Italy, and who will be the rider?

In the last 17 years Spain have won 7 MotoGP world titles and Italy have won 7 too!! The only riders outside of that are Australian Casey Stoner who's won 2 and American Nicky Hayden in 2006.

How did Italy and Spain get so good at MotoGP? It's not even like it's a couple of riders dominating (ok so Rossi and Marquez and Lorenzo have won all the titles - but there are loads of top riders from both of those countries who've been competiing, Dovi, Pedrosa, Iannone, Vinales... list goes on!!)

And who do you think will be the first rider to win a MotoGP title from a country other than Spain or Italy?

Mon, 12/18/2017 - 16:23
Smokey123
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France with Zarco on the bike

France with Zarco on the bike

Mon, 12/18/2017 - 16:29
thesaladbox
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It's really tough to look

It's really tough to look past those two countries at the moment as they have all the best riders!! But outside of that I'm going to go with Jack Miller and Australia

Mon, 12/18/2017 - 18:38
Yossarian
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Valentino won Italy's

Valentino won Italy's championships and he spans two eras and apart from Nicky the rest have come from the Spanish system. So any nationality can win but they better enter CEV or get picked up by VR46. 

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 12:53
Navelgazer
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Spain and Italy got so good

Spain and Italy got so good at producing championship winning riders because they start the riders so young and put so much focus into motorsport.  Read the biographies of people like Rossi, Lorenzo, they all start riding so young.  Stoner refers to knowing he had to move to Europe in order to get anywhere with his career.

Unfortunately that sort of focus on progressing younger riders has been lacking in for example the UK, so we are way behind in producing quality at a young enough age.

The new Talent Cup should go some way to assisting this, but to be honest riders in the UK need to be encouraged from 6, 7 years old like on the continent.

No coincidence that the CEV is now recognised globally as the feeder into the GP paddock - if you're not riding in that, you're basically nowhere.  Luckily it doesn't matter what nationality you are nowadays to take part.

Be good if someone like BT Sport could show that footage during the year!

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 19:31
rsvman
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which rider? you mean which bike

Over the past 46 seasons, only 4 times has a non-factory Yamaha or non-factory Honda won the championship.  So the question is, which rider can get those seats?

 

Thu, 12/21/2017 - 02:51
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Poldarn
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Sorry but you're wrong. In

Sorry but you're wrong. In the last 46 seasons the totals are Honda 19, Yamaha 17, Suzuki 6, M.V. 3, and Ducati 1.

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 20:23
Yossarian
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46 seasons, that's 1971 are

46 seasons, that's 1971 are you sure ?

Wed, 12/20/2017 - 00:02
Cadweller
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Looking waaay down the track,

Looking waaay down the track, Honda, Yamaha, Dorna et al would love to find an Asian rider who could cut it. Merch and audience figure gold. We've all got excited about Zarco and if his pan keeps flashing and he gets a factory ride, he could be yer man. Who knows what Oliviera and Binder might achieve if the KTMs crack MotoGP as they have elsewhere. Have to say, I'm not so sure that it'll be a Brit - though I'd love it to be Bradley Ray!

Wed, 12/20/2017 - 11:27
Smiler
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I can see winners coming from

I can see winners coming from Asia now that they have the Asain talent cup and a structure to get riders into MOTO3 which then gets them on the way to MOTOGP. The pool of riders from Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia etc is massive and the 'underbone' series run all over the region create agressive riders who are normally brilliant in the wet. When you couple this with the new talent cup structure and DORNAs understanding of how important this region is for bike sales I can see this being the next region to have sucess. A few have started to get good results in MOTO3 and I think this is just the start.

Wed, 12/20/2017 - 11:28
Sutton19
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Japan with Nakagami!

Japan with Nakagami!

Wed, 12/20/2017 - 15:03
mrfill
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"How did Italy and Spain get

"How did Italy and Spain get so good at MotoGP?"

Because bike racing is very, very popular in both countries - the biggest viewed race ever (Valencia 2015) was seen by over 9m in Italy and over 6m in Spain. UK figure was less than half a million. Both have a very healthy, well supported and fiercely competitive kids series. Its basically a question of supply and demand. Italy and Spain have vastly bigger quantities of good young talent than any other country.

Its a bit like Finland and rally drivers. No lack of top talent even with a tiny population.

Wed, 12/20/2017 - 18:46
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Cadweller
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Agreed MRFILL, the sport

Agreed MRFILL, the sport follows the interest and bike sales - hence the drive for Asia. Bikes are cheap, everyday, fit-for-purpose transport for kids in hot countries, so they're into that culture from the start. Bit like asking "how did Italy and Spain get so good at eating pasta and paella?". 

Thu, 12/21/2017 - 10:40
Jabbafumi
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South Africa with Brad or

South Africa with Brad or Portugal with Miguel. By the time Brad and Migual get to MotoGP, the KTM will be sorted.