IndyCar » Panther boss backs DeltaWing


John Barnes has spoken publicly of his support for the radical DeltaWing IndCar design - a feeling believed to echo those of rival team owners.

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Don - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 3:04 PM

What's more frightening than the hideous and repulsive looks of Delta THING, is what will happen after IndyCar picks a proper concept for the new formula (Swift hopefully), and the owners continue to push this monstrosity because of the money invested.

I urge all IndyCar fans that hate Delta Wing to FLOOD the corporate IndyCar office with emails, phone calls and personal letters to let them know how you feel.

Brian Barnhart, COO
Randy Bernard, CEO
Indy Racing League
4565 W. 16th Street
Indianapolis, IN 46222
317-492-6526

I urge all IndyCar fans that hate Delta Wing to flood HVM Racing's blog, and Delta Wing Racing's feedback page.

zoltan_06 - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 3:37 PM

this is the kind of revolutionary car that A1GP needed to make its mark. Indy is already established and to move to a chassis like this will be like taking one step forward then 2 steps back.

fairlyoldguy - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 3:45 PM

To put this into historical perspective--there were racing fans that grumbled when F1 cars such as the Maserati 250F and Lancia-Ferari D50 were pushed aside by the Coopers and Lotuses (Loti?) Then a Cooper showed up at Indy, followed by Lotus and Lola, etc. and the roadster fans grumbled. And, again, later, others hated the arrival of wings and sidepods. I, on the other hand, welcome innovation, and hope that this project comes to fruition.

JohnDier1

February 15, 2010 4:18 PM

Maybe some type of radical new design like that should be considered in F1 as well. The present designs are just evolutions that have come over the years. There has been no huge leap forward in a short space of time since the cars went rear engine, or got a rear wing.

RawDawg

February 15, 2010 4:52 PM

you have a valid point fairlyoldguy

But this DeltaWing car isn't even an open wheeled car! You can't run an open wheel series without an open wheeled car!

I can deal with the rear wheels not being exposed for downforce reasons but the front wheels have to stick out like a normal open wheeled car. I don't see how that isn't mandatory for an open wheeled series.

JohnDier1

February 15, 2010 5:22 PM

Rawdog, taking what you said and what fairoldguy said, just my thoughts, but isn't the bulk of a wheel sticking out causing the biggest amount of drag on a car? Is it a bad idea to make the whole wheel thing more aerodynamic and reduce drag, therefore increasing efficiancy and hence speed? The biggest drawback to the design of the Deltawing would be keeping the brakes cool enough due to reduced airflow. I always thought that the definition of open wheel was an open steering wheel as in F1, IRL, Superleague Formula and so on with open cockpits. I think that all the submissions made to IRL contain some radically new design and they all have their merits and are worth looking into.

RawDawg

February 15, 2010 5:58 PM

I understand your point John

But open cockpit doesn't mean open wheeled car. A open cockpit AMLS Le Mans or sportscar isn't an open wheeled car - it's just open cockpit car. Open wheeled is just that - open wheeled.

All the designs should be considered but that's my beef with the Deltawing design.

Dodgy Foreigner - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 6:00 PM

I'm all for innovation, but the first thing that hit me with this design is how stable will it be on a road/track course? Doesn't look like it will like sharp cornering at all... mind you, it will add the excitment the Indycar bosses are after... but I bet you the drivers won't appreciate barrel rolling at high speed!

I'm hoping the majority of the concepts remain as they are... concepts.

Stephen - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 6:59 PM

The performance and efficiency goals are great, but it's ugly as sin. It's so ugly it makes the new F1 cars look attractive. Get rid of the stupid airplane tail and move the front wheels out and it would be a bit more acceptable. It still isn't an Open Wheel car, and has NOTHING to do with the history of Open Wheel (USAC, CART, Champ Car, Indy Car) in America.

Rick - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 7:02 PM

It looks more like some very weird LeMans car rather than a proper Indy Car.

I hate it with the utmost passion. Looking at it makes me want to vomit.

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