IndyCar » Panther boss backs DeltaWing


John Barnes has spoken publicly of his support for the radical DeltaWing IndCar design - a feeling believed to echo those of rival team owners.

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Bernie Ecclestone - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 7:16 PM

What would be the word for extreme hate, beyond hate? I don't think there is a word for how much I hate it. Why does it have an airplane tail? It looks ridiculous.

Note to Indy Car: PLEASE select any one of the Swift concepts! Anyone of them look like the future of Indy Car (not Frankenstein).

Don - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 7:25 PM

I'm all for reducing costs, increasing performance and efficiency. That is the goal of the new chassis. But not at the expense of turning people off. Delta THING is not an Open Wheel car, nor is it even remotely attractive. What kind of car is it who know? But this is clear, it's hideous!

Give us a car that reduces costs, increases performance and efficiency and LOOKS GOOD! Any of the other concepts from Swift, Dallara or Lola will do. Hell, bring back Champ Car's Panoz DP01, anything but this dung.

fairlyoldguy - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 7:39 PM

For all of you who object to the enclosed wheels,this car represents the return of "streamlining" to racecar design. For the last 35-40 years, aerodynamic development has been concerned with downforce. A major part of the Delta Wing concept is about achieving high speeds with a lower power output,via reduction of drag. There have been "closed wheel" Grand Prix cars since the 1930's - Mercedes, Auto Union, Maserati, and similar efforts at streamlining during the early years of the 2.5 liter F1: -M-B, Maserati, Vanwall, etc. and I recall Indycar efforts at streamlining such as the 1955 Sumar Special, which even had a cockpit bubble although it raced "normal". Nothing new under the sun!

Don - Unregistered

February 15, 2010 7:48 PM

@fairlyoldguy

I'm all for achieving higher speeds with a lower power output, reducing cost, etc. But give us a good looking car! Get rid of the stupid airplane tail and push the front wheels wider and it would look better. But how good can one make $hit look?

Pam

February 15, 2010 8:46 PM

I'm guessing the tail is meant to produce a lateral force to keep the back from going where the front is? I don't mind it as a concept, which is all it is. I thought the jist of it (the prototype) was to produce a car based on a proposed set of guidelines that required maximum streamlining due to a major reduction in power. This represent what that might look like, other teams or designers might have another solution.

Brad - Unregistered

February 16, 2010 2:18 PM

I have lots of respect for Ben Bowlby. He designed some blazing fast 1000 HP Champ Cars as Chief of Design at Lola, back in the CART days.

Building a very fast car with a fraction of the power and cost is a great idea, but what is it? A Sports Car? Certainly not an Open Wheel car. Not an Indy Car.

My concern is what happens going forward, as the majority of Indy Car team owners have invested in the Delta Wing project. I understand their desire to have more influence in what car they are spending their money on, but it could be like the inmates running the asylum.

Satan

February 16, 2010 6:53 PM

To me there's a major safety issue with the design of this car when it comes to pitstops... the two front wheel guys are gonna have to leap out of the way before they get collected by the rear of the car...

stephen laker - Unregistered

March 31, 2010 6:42 AM

IRL IF YOU WANT TO GAIN MORE RACE FANS AND NOT LOSE THEM DONT CHOOSE THE DELTA WING CAR ITS STUPIED AND UGLY. BUT I AM SURE YOU WILL NOT TAKE NOTICE OF THE RACE FANS YOU WILL JUST DO YOUR OWN THING BUT BE WARNED YOU WILL LOSE A LOT OF OPEN WHEEL FANS IF YOU GO WITH THE DELTA WING.

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